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HOW TO-02 VG33E Timing Belt Replacement

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#1 · (Edited)
Here is a picture history of the Job. Should have taken more pics. I Did it back in May of '06 and put 25k on it before trading it in for my '08 OR.
These are the parts and prices at the time of the job.

Parts:
Timing Belt Kit from xterraparts.com ($262) Includes:
Timing Belt
2 camshaft seals
1 crankshaft seal
Water pump & gasket
Tensioner, tensioner stud, & tensioner spring
3 drive belts
Thermostat
Tube of Red Silicone gasket sealant (Used on the metal to metal contact on the thermostat housing)
2 gallons of coolant ($15)
1 Tube of permatex form a gasket 2 (Used on the water pump gasket $3 - Use what you prefer here - I didn't use the red silicone gasket sealant here as permatex says that their brand is not designed for use on a solid gasket. I'm assuming the stuff in the Nissan tube was identical but I'm not sure. The old water pump gasket showed no signs of leaking and it used something other than the red silicone and then that was only between the gasket and the block. There was no sealant between the gasket and the water pump. I barely loosened the water pump bolts and the coolant started flowing! I'll keep an eye on this and let you know if the form a gasket 2 was a mistake.)
Total in parts: $280

Major Tools:
Metric Sockets from 8mm - 14mm
Compressor and 1/2" impact wrench
Impact Socket - 27mm for crankshaft pulley
Large Size 3 jaw puller for crankshaft pulley - I used Autozone P/N 27078
Small blade screwdriver for popping out camshaft/crankshaft seals or seal puller
White paint pen for marking the alignment marks
Torque wrench
5mm Allen Wrench for Tensioner adjustment

PART 1
Notice part of the bottom of the shroud comes off to allow you to pull it out with the fan still in. Notice those two 'clips" on the bottom of the upper part of the shroud. They hold one of the trans cooler lines. I found it was easier to leave that line connected to the radiator (it will be on the driver's side) and to remove the trans cooler hose on the passenger side from the radiator for radiator removal. I also left the lower radiator hose on the radiator. Much easier to pull out that way.
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Then you can get the radiator, fan, drive belts and drive belt brackets out
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Here is a pic with the upper timing belt cover removed and the old belt still on. I forgot to get a pic of it with both covers off. Sorry, my bad! The heat was getting to me (good excuse huh?) :D
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OK, I added a pic from a '92 Pathy VG30 V6 with the lower cover removed. Found it over at sadik.net Nissan How-To Section. Not exactly the VG33E but very close. You get an idea of what the belt looks like with both covers removed and the Tensioner on.
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I took a good look at the alignment marks as the RH camshaft alignment mark was about a half notch off. It really doesn't show in the pics. The manual for some reason tells you to make sure the LH (Drivers side) camshaft mark is lined up and the crankshaft mark is lined up but nothing about the RH one. Hmmmmmm... Also, there was no alignment mark on the oil pump housing for the crankshaft pulley to align to so I had to mark it myself. I took allot of time here to make sure I got it right!
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Discussion starter · #2 · (Edited)
PART 2
I left the old belt on and held the crank pulley bolt (27MM - WOW!!)so I could loosen the camshaft pulley bolts - they were freakin’ tight!
Here are pics of the old seals and the new seals I put in. Very easy to do!
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New seal. Also notice I have the thermostat housing off and the water pump out. Scraping that gasket was a bitch!
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Here is a pic of the crankshaft seal. The gear will slide right off the shaft after you get the crank pulley off. I would have replaced this too but it didn't come as it was back ordered but it looked fine so I'm not worried. OK, if you have to pry the gear off, the thin plate behind will have to be replaced as you will destroy it. it's called a slinger. You should pre order it to be safe.
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Well, then it was a matter of taking the old belt and tensioner off and putting them back on. I didn't get pics here for some reason. I was preoccupied worrying about the alignment marks. Sorry. Anyway, it all went back together fairly easy. One thing, I didn't have was a belt tension gauge so I marked the location of the hole in the tensioner that uses a Allen wrench to turn it when you're adjusting the tension. I marked the location of this hole in relation to the block. Then when I put the new one on and tightened it, it came back almost to the same spot and the belt tension felt good (whatever that means) so I went with it.
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Also, the new belt comes with lines on it to match up with all the alignment marks and arrows showing which way to face the belt. This was very helpful. Also, on the V6 there will be 40 cogs between the camshaft alignment marks.
Also, the new water pump comes with studs for mounting the fan.
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Also, as I found out, new studs are really meant to be only hand tightened in. Also, use loctite on them. Don’t turn the shoulder into the threads. Here is a good article on that!
Installing Studs
Make sure you put the thermostat back in properly as it has a marking showing the top.
Well, I unplugged the connector to the distributor and cranked it a while to make sure the lifters had oil again. Plugged it back in and she fired right up very nicely!
 
Discussion starter · #4 ·
You're welcome. I got a few more simpler how-to's coming...not nearly as elaborate but maybe helpful all the same.
 
Discussion starter · #6 ·
LOL...Nothing for the Alternator but I got a fuel filter replacement how-to. I'll post that next.
 
Discussion starter · #8 ·
soccerbrace said:
Sweet, I have a few pics that I can contribute as well. Is it for first gen.?

BTW, Do you mind if I edit this title to start with "HOW TO" and sticky it?

We are trying to collect a nice bunch of how to's and your masterpiece would be a nice addition.
Feel free to edit! Yes, First Gen.
 
Discussion starter · #9 ·
soccerbrace said:
Sweet, I have a few pics that I can contribute as well. Is it for first gen.?
BTW, I'm not sure about all the next Gens, but on the '08s, the fuel filter is part of the fuel pump/sending unit. It never gets changed unless you replace the pump/sending unit. And, to top it off, it's not nearly as easy as the gen 1s. You gotta drop the tank to get to it. Nice, huh?....:)
 
Discussion starter · #12 ·
I had several timing belts on different vehicles under my belt before this one otherwise I might have been a little nervous. If you have pretty good mechanical skills and take your time you should be OK.
 
Discussion starter · #14 ·
Honestly, first time and really being careful is gunna be 10 to 12 hours. Even if it's longer who cares. Take the whole damn weekend as long as you get it right. My dealer was gunna do the whole thing for around $600 so that is also an option.
 
Discussion starter · #16 ·
I'm assuming $300 plus parts correct? So around $600-$700 so that's about right so yes, you can save around $300 by doing it yourself...minus the aggravation...beer...swearing...years off life...lol...:)
 
Discussion starter · #18 ·
I would make one big suggestion and that is to rent or borrow a belt tension gauge to make sure you get it right. Otherwise there is a little guess work involved.
 
Discussion starter · #20 ·
cbzdel said:
So I need to get a belt tensioner, 27mm socket, and some pulley pullers, new tools are always fun :)
Yea but if you buy 'em you are starting to cut into that savings you were hoping for...lol...:)
 
Discussion starter · #25 ·
Also, talking with 01SalsaX over at LINXC, a harmonic balancer puller works better than the three jaw puller.
 
Discussion starter · #27 · (Edited)
I have never used the harmonic balancer puller but I'm sure someone can chime in on that.

I used a small thin flat blade screw driver and was very careful not it nick the camshafts. Also, you have to be careful not to push them into the heads.

I had a professional impact wrench I got from home depot and a compressor to torque the balancer back on.
 
Discussion starter · #29 ·
The belt I took off was very loose. I was surprised at how loose it was. I highly recommend a belt tensioner tool for putting the new belt on otherwise you are guessing.

I used my impact wrench on max to tighten the crank bolt back on.
 
Discussion starter · #31 ·
I was told by 01Salsa that they way to go on the crank pulley is using a harmonic balancer puller. Much better than the three jaw puller I used. Living in AZ though, nothing was rusted on and it popped right off but I could see it being a problem elsewhere. I think I'll change my original tool list from the three jaw puller to the harmonic balancer puller.

And I agree on taking your time. It's not worth it to rush. I'm amazed at how many people seem interested in doing it in record time.

Congrats on getting it done. I know it's a great feeling!
 
Discussion starter · #34 ·
how bad was it pulling the oil seals and replacing them? did you need a seal tool? if not....elaborate a little please.
I used a small flat blade screw driver and was very careful not to scratch the camshafts....and be very careful NOT to push them into the heads.
 
Discussion starter · #38 ·
hmmmmmm. what about resetting the new ones?
I just took note of the position of the old ones, put some grease on the rubber part of the new seal and carefully tapped it in being careful not to get it cocked sideways and got it back in as far as the original ones.

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Discussion starter · #50 ·
Daummmm. Would have flipped me out. Glad nothing bad happened!!!
 
Discussion starter · #53 ·
If you are using an impact wrench you need
One with at least 300 ft-lbs of torque

I know that others have had the same issue and went to a better impact wrench and the nut came right off.
 
Discussion starter · #57 ·
Good Deal!