im trying to get halo projector headlights(angle eyes) for my 2000 xterra, but cant find thing on the internet. all i can find is the headlights for the 2nd generation xterra. can anyone elp me with a website or anything? maybe its possible to get a 2005 grille that way i can get the lights (but i'd need to get some kind of conversion kit for that). does anyone have any help?
dalton00
pretty sure thats not an option for the 2000. Crazedshifter on here made a custom halo light, it looked pretty good. I also followed his how to, to do it. But not sure how you would do it since you have a 2000. Sorry!
You can make your own Angle Eyes fairly easy. It was a big thing in the Honda world.
You get those clear plastic rods for like blinds.. the ones you would twist to change the angle of the blinds to block light or let light in. You'd heat it up in the oven to soften it, then wrap it around a can or whatever that was about the right size you're looking for, and bend the ends back at a 90 degree even with each other. Imagine this if you can:
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The | lines would be the circle you formed, looking at it from the side. the --'s would be where you bent the ends back. Then you drill a small hole in each end, insert white (or whatever color you want) LED's. Then you take a blade and make nicks all around the face of the circle you made. Then, when you power up the LED's, the light basically stays in the clear plastic (just like a fibre optic line would do), but comes out the nicks you made. I've seen quite a few pictures of ones people had done and they really looked as good as the BMW ones. They also tended to wrap tape around the ends to help hold the ends together + help keep the LED's and wiring in place as well.
I know it doesn't help with the projector part, but if you do (another typical Honda scene thing) and retro the projector part of an 05 light into the 1st gen housing, you could use the angle eye mod to finish off the look
You get those clear plastic rods for like blinds.. the ones you would twist to change the angle of the blinds to block light or let light in. You'd heat it up in the oven to soften it, then wrap it around a can or whatever that was about the right size you're looking for, and bend the ends back at a 90 degree even with each other. Imagine this if you can:
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The | lines would be the circle you formed, looking at it from the side. the --'s would be where you bent the ends back. Then you drill a small hole in each end, insert white (or whatever color you want) LED's. Then you take a blade and make nicks all around the face of the circle you made. Then, when you power up the LED's, the light basically stays in the clear plastic (just like a fibre optic line would do), but comes out the nicks you made. I've seen quite a few pictures of ones people had done and they really looked as good as the BMW ones. They also tended to wrap tape around the ends to help hold the ends together + help keep the LED's and wiring in place as well.
I know it doesn't help with the projector part, but if you do (another typical Honda scene thing) and retro the projector part of an 05 light into the 1st gen housing, you could use the angle eye mod to finish off the look
Projector headlights for a 2000 Xterra
I also have a 2000 Xterra and you will not find any after market Projector drop in headlight assembly.
The idiots who recommend you just stick the HID bulbs into the stock headlight housing don't know what they are saying or don't care.
Sticking HID bulbs into the stock housing will have light going everywhere and flash blind oncoming drivers.
You most likely have seen exactly what I am talking about when some one with the HID bulbs is blinding you.
This will also get you a ticket very very quickly..
If you are as I am set to have to have projector headlights you will have to do a retro-fit install.
I had to buy the European style headlight housings due to them having a clear front lens; stock housings have a lens effect and will scatter the light beam - been there already....
I then also ordered the Morimoto projectors for the 9004 bulb as this housing uses the 9004 bulbs. The reason is the bulb hole in the housing.
The bulb wiring for the 9004 and 9007 is different and don't let the bit brains tell you they are the same THEY ARE NOT....
You will have to remove the clear lens from the housing - I used a heat gun very carefully. Some use an oven but that kinda worried me..
The projectors then basically "bolt" in.
These projectors depending on where you buy them don't come with the bulbs, relay harness and ballasts.
I hooked the low/hi wire from the projectors into the relay harness wiring and used the relay harness to power the lights directly from the battery.
I decided not to paint the housing reflectors and left them "stock" and used the "Gatling" shrouds on the projector housings.
I have a sharp cutoff on the beam as it should and I don't flash blind the drivers.
My state has yearly vehicle safety inspections and on advantage is the euro housing has a DOT number on the lens. So the grease monkey doing the inspection sees my headlights and sees the DOT number; the vehicle passed inspection. If you use just the HID bulb in the housing you will fail inspection or you have to remove the HID bulb and re install stock bulbs before inspection.
I still have my stock headlight assemblies so I can revert back to stock in about 30 minutes if I have to.
I took pictures of my retro-fit conversion.
I used the 6000K bulbs and 55watt ballasts.
If you are really have to have projector headlights the parts will approximately set you back around 400-500.00.
The advantage is bulb life in the many thousands of hours; I see like it is daylight in front of me. It is a selling point if you go to sell the vehicle or remove them and sell separately.
I also have a 2000 Xterra and you will not find any after market Projector drop in headlight assembly.
The idiots who recommend you just stick the HID bulbs into the stock headlight housing don't know what they are saying or don't care.
Sticking HID bulbs into the stock housing will have light going everywhere and flash blind oncoming drivers.
You most likely have seen exactly what I am talking about when some one with the HID bulbs is blinding you.
This will also get you a ticket very very quickly..
If you are as I am set to have to have projector headlights you will have to do a retro-fit install.
I had to buy the European style headlight housings due to them having a clear front lens; stock housings have a lens effect and will scatter the light beam - been there already....
I then also ordered the Morimoto projectors for the 9004 bulb as this housing uses the 9004 bulbs. The reason is the bulb hole in the housing.
The bulb wiring for the 9004 and 9007 is different and don't let the bit brains tell you they are the same THEY ARE NOT....
You will have to remove the clear lens from the housing - I used a heat gun very carefully. Some use an oven but that kinda worried me..
The projectors then basically "bolt" in.
These projectors depending on where you buy them don't come with the bulbs, relay harness and ballasts.
I hooked the low/hi wire from the projectors into the relay harness wiring and used the relay harness to power the lights directly from the battery.
I decided not to paint the housing reflectors and left them "stock" and used the "Gatling" shrouds on the projector housings.
I have a sharp cutoff on the beam as it should and I don't flash blind the drivers.
My state has yearly vehicle safety inspections and on advantage is the euro housing has a DOT number on the lens. So the grease monkey doing the inspection sees my headlights and sees the DOT number; the vehicle passed inspection. If you use just the HID bulb in the housing you will fail inspection or you have to remove the HID bulb and re install stock bulbs before inspection.
I still have my stock headlight assemblies so I can revert back to stock in about 30 minutes if I have to.
I took pictures of my retro-fit conversion.
I used the 6000K bulbs and 55watt ballasts.
If you are really have to have projector headlights the parts will approximately set you back around 400-500.00.
The advantage is bulb life in the many thousands of hours; I see like it is daylight in front of me. It is a selling point if you go to sell the vehicle or remove them and sell separately.
menahunie it depends on the state because in Colorado my buddy had 12k HIDs in his 95' F150 and he got a ticket because the blue was to "close" to police blue...... the officer said nothing on the spot or in court about the brightness but about the color. I passed half a dozen state patrolmen today and i know they were flash blinded by my lights (whoops....) but they cannot do anything about it because if it stays the same color as stock headlights in newer luxury cars they are not illegal. Now what you can do like me is you can aim any headlight any direction you want (the bulb) my passenger side bulb is aimed directly forward and my drivers side is aimed down and towards he median (deer like to cross the road where I have to drive) thats just my 2 cents though, I dunno not know which state either of you live in.
Here's 3 quick links to NHTSA in relation to the information:
http://isearch.nhtsa.gov/files/Shih.3.html
http://isearch.nhtsa.gov/files/deetz.ztv.html
http://isearch.nhtsa.gov/files/kim.ztv.html
The interesting thing I got out of it (something I didn't know) is this:
The symbol "DOT" on an item of equipment is sometimes misconstrued as approval by the Department of Transportation. In fact, the symbol is the manufacturer’s certification that the item complies with all applicable FMVSS, as required by 49 USC 30115.
So just because it carries the DOT mark doesn't mean it's truly DOT Approved
Trolls
As for your links about the letters; I read it. The letter has to do with "Light Sources"... Nothing about the beam pattern and flash blinding on coming drivers. Nothing about sticking non OEN "Light Soures - BULBS" into an OEM housing meaning it is still legal; tell that to all the other that have gotten a ticket for illegal headlights..
States that have safety inspections; check the headlights for beam pattern and where they are aimed.HID and OEM Bulbs are entirely different and OEM bulbs are designed to work in OEM Headlight housings. HID bulbs are not..
I am not going into lighting design; you can Google that information as to what I am talking about and learn for yourself or you can just stick a HID bulb into your OEM Housing and get a ticket for many hundreds of dollars OR you blind an oncoming driver and make them wreck...
Sticking in a HID bulb kit into a OEM housing WILL NOT MAKE YOU LEGAL...
But I guess you already knew that and your nonconstructive comments is why not too many people don't even comment here because of posters like you. That is why I didn't even bother posting the pictures of the conversion for others who want it done correctly.. YES I even tried pointing bothe headlight - stock housing ALL THE WAY DOWN AND TO THE RIGHT - STILL BLINDED ON COMING DRIVERS EVEN A COP... He made a U-turn and I was pulled over. I was lucky I got only a warning due to we knowing each other from work..
I gave information on what I did because people were always asking about "HID" lights for the 2000 Xterra.
You state your friend was cited because his headlight bulbs 12K were blue; not because he was using them and the cop ticketing him didn't want to have to work to have the cars headlights checked. HE WAS LUCKY.
From reading posts in this forum I have seen nothing but bitching, dumping on, flaming and trolling responses to others posts..:usuck:
I only replied because allot of you play "know it all" and allot of the information posted is not correct; no matter how many letter links you provide; THE STATE YOU LIVE IN WILL DICTATE HOW YOUR VEHICLE WILL BE EQUIPPED ON THEIR ROADS...
If the headlight assembly has the "DOT" mark and "DOT" number it has to be approved to use that mark. The Department of Transportation STATES THAT.. If it has the DOT mark and number and is not approved by DOT then what? Then it isn't legal...
As for your links about the letters; I read it. The letter has to do with "Light Sources"... Nothing about the beam pattern and flash blinding on coming drivers. Nothing about sticking non OEN "Light Soures - BULBS" into an OEM housing meaning it is still legal; tell that to all the other that have gotten a ticket for illegal headlights..
States that have safety inspections; check the headlights for beam pattern and where they are aimed.HID and OEM Bulbs are entirely different and OEM bulbs are designed to work in OEM Headlight housings. HID bulbs are not..
I am not going into lighting design; you can Google that information as to what I am talking about and learn for yourself or you can just stick a HID bulb into your OEM Housing and get a ticket for many hundreds of dollars OR you blind an oncoming driver and make them wreck...
Sticking in a HID bulb kit into a OEM housing WILL NOT MAKE YOU LEGAL...
But I guess you already knew that and your nonconstructive comments is why not too many people don't even comment here because of posters like you. That is why I didn't even bother posting the pictures of the conversion for others who want it done correctly.. YES I even tried pointing bothe headlight - stock housing ALL THE WAY DOWN AND TO THE RIGHT - STILL BLINDED ON COMING DRIVERS EVEN A COP... He made a U-turn and I was pulled over. I was lucky I got only a warning due to we knowing each other from work..
I gave information on what I did because people were always asking about "HID" lights for the 2000 Xterra.
You state your friend was cited because his headlight bulbs 12K were blue; not because he was using them and the cop ticketing him didn't want to have to work to have the cars headlights checked. HE WAS LUCKY.
From reading posts in this forum I have seen nothing but bitching, dumping on, flaming and trolling responses to others posts..:usuck:
I only replied because allot of you play "know it all" and allot of the information posted is not correct; no matter how many letter links you provide; THE STATE YOU LIVE IN WILL DICTATE HOW YOUR VEHICLE WILL BE EQUIPPED ON THEIR ROADS...
menahunie:
First off, I shouldn't even bother replying since you can't seem to read before you run your mouth.
Secondly, when you're going to spout, please put the screen name of who you're quoting or something, otherwise it appears you're yelling at me for all that was said.
Third, in response to what you said:
"If the headlight assembly has the "DOT" mark and "DOT" number it has to be approved to use that mark. The Department of Transportation STATES THAT.. If it has the DOT mark and number and is not approved by DOT then what? Then it isn't legal..."
What I said is pulled right from the links found on the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), the section of DOT that handles safety and recalls. Since they are the ones who do such things, I'd tend to believe what they say in those links. Not only that, I've seen many clear head lights with DOT on them, when in fact they didn't meet DOT requirements because they didn't have amber and the NHTSA issued a recall on them. So there's a perfect example with a DOT on an item where it didn't meet the requirements of the DOT codes and was later pulled.
Fourth:
No one said it was legal OR a good idea to stick an HID bulb into a stock housing. In fact, if you would READ the posts you'd see nearly everyone says it's a BAD idea and WILL blind other drivers.
Fifth:
"In that letter, we interpreted FMVSS No. 108 as requiring headlamps manufactured to replace original equipment headlamps to comply with all applicable photometry requirements using the replaceable light sources intended for use in the headlighting system on the vehicle for which the replacement headlamp is intended. Unlike other lamps, FMVSS No. 108 specifically regulates headlighting systems, including their light sources (see S7.1, S7.5, and S7.7). We adhered to this interpretation in a recent interpretation to Calcoast-ITL (69 FR 60464 (Oct. 8, 2004))(see enclosure)."
and
"The Federal specifications for replaceable light sources used in original equipment motor vehicle headlighting systems are located in 49 CFR Part 564, Replaceable Light Source Information. The purpose for storing the specifications in Part 564 is two fold: (1) to ensure the availability to replacement light source manufacturers of the specifications of original equipment light sources such that replacement light sources are interchangeable with original equipment light sources and provide equivalent performance, and (2) that redesigned or newly developed light sources are designated as distinct, different, and noninterchangeable with previously existing light sources. "
If you understand basic English, you'd see the source must headlight has to conform to the original in bulb design too... and the 3rd link IIRC clearly states that to have an H1 design HID bulb wouldn't meet the requirements for an H1 bulb, and therefor wouldn't pass the FMVSS.
Sixth:
There's no reason to be all pissy and all that when no one was spreading wrong information, but stating what information we've found (and mine happens to be from a branch of DOT), as well as experiences others have had. So next time please take a chill pill before you go on your tirades and get some more posts before you blow up (6 posts and complaining already?!)
Mods, feel free to delete this if you feel I'm out of line.
Thanks!
First off, I shouldn't even bother replying since you can't seem to read before you run your mouth.
Secondly, when you're going to spout, please put the screen name of who you're quoting or something, otherwise it appears you're yelling at me for all that was said.
Third, in response to what you said:
"If the headlight assembly has the "DOT" mark and "DOT" number it has to be approved to use that mark. The Department of Transportation STATES THAT.. If it has the DOT mark and number and is not approved by DOT then what? Then it isn't legal..."
What I said is pulled right from the links found on the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), the section of DOT that handles safety and recalls. Since they are the ones who do such things, I'd tend to believe what they say in those links. Not only that, I've seen many clear head lights with DOT on them, when in fact they didn't meet DOT requirements because they didn't have amber and the NHTSA issued a recall on them. So there's a perfect example with a DOT on an item where it didn't meet the requirements of the DOT codes and was later pulled.
Fourth:
No one said it was legal OR a good idea to stick an HID bulb into a stock housing. In fact, if you would READ the posts you'd see nearly everyone says it's a BAD idea and WILL blind other drivers.
Fifth:
"In that letter, we interpreted FMVSS No. 108 as requiring headlamps manufactured to replace original equipment headlamps to comply with all applicable photometry requirements using the replaceable light sources intended for use in the headlighting system on the vehicle for which the replacement headlamp is intended. Unlike other lamps, FMVSS No. 108 specifically regulates headlighting systems, including their light sources (see S7.1, S7.5, and S7.7). We adhered to this interpretation in a recent interpretation to Calcoast-ITL (69 FR 60464 (Oct. 8, 2004))(see enclosure)."
and
"The Federal specifications for replaceable light sources used in original equipment motor vehicle headlighting systems are located in 49 CFR Part 564, Replaceable Light Source Information. The purpose for storing the specifications in Part 564 is two fold: (1) to ensure the availability to replacement light source manufacturers of the specifications of original equipment light sources such that replacement light sources are interchangeable with original equipment light sources and provide equivalent performance, and (2) that redesigned or newly developed light sources are designated as distinct, different, and noninterchangeable with previously existing light sources. "
If you understand basic English, you'd see the source must headlight has to conform to the original in bulb design too... and the 3rd link IIRC clearly states that to have an H1 design HID bulb wouldn't meet the requirements for an H1 bulb, and therefor wouldn't pass the FMVSS.
Sixth:
There's no reason to be all pissy and all that when no one was spreading wrong information, but stating what information we've found (and mine happens to be from a branch of DOT), as well as experiences others have had. So next time please take a chill pill before you go on your tirades and get some more posts before you blow up (6 posts and complaining already?!)
Mods, feel free to delete this if you feel I'm out of line.
Thanks!
could you post a picture of what it looks like. im having the same problem with the headlights.
Just a heads up, that person hasnt been on in over a year and then some. This is an older thread, so just some words of the wise, when you look for a person to ask something for, click on their name, and then see when their last activity was.
Just saying, so that way you dont end up wasting your time waiting for an answer when it probably wont ever come.
doing a retrofit on headlights is a pain in the ass, not to mention the amount of money that you need to do the work. I did it on my 06 Accord stock headlights and it took me months to finish. I used an Acura TSX projector and bought halos to fit around them. They came out pretty nice and then i sold them. And i was wondering the same thing about the mounting brackets and such for both generations for the bumper and grill. Are the brackets slightly different and if so how easy would it be to modify to fit my 01?
I didn't really feel like reading thru this whole thread but I retrofitted mine with projectors from theretrofitsource.com. Kinda pricey but well worth it as the light output is incredible and I don't blind people. Took me about a weekend to do and was relatively simple just need to take your time and be careful to not mess anything up.
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Your headlight housing question
The other pictures shown in a previous post here with the shrouds painted red is similar to mine; I didn't paint the housing and shrouds.
I quit posting here.
You don't provide the the year and make of your vehicle.
The other pictures shown in a previous post here with the shrouds painted red is similar to mine; I didn't paint the housing and shrouds.
I quit posting here.
For the record:
DOT and SAE DO NOT APPROVE anything, there is no such thing as DOT APPROVED or SAE APPROVED.
The MANUFACTURER is the one who SAYS his product MEETS the requirements of DOT or SAE, and, for many lighting companies, ALL that might mean is that they figured out how to make letters appear on a product, such as D's, O's and T's, etc....
Or, maybe, it can mean that DOT requires a light to fit into a particular housing...and theirs fits, so it MEETS that particular DOT specification, but, doesn't mean it meets ANY OTHER DOT specifications, such as the beam distribution pattern, etc.
So, DOT and SAE , do NOT approve PRODUCTS, ever. They issue standards, and, manufacturers can say they MET the standards, but, legally, they CANNOT say that DOT, etc, APPROVED the products.
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Some reseller OF the products don't know this, or, don't care, etc...and advertise that a product is "Dot Approved" or "SAE Approved", etc....but, the product is not, ever.
Its more accurate to say it MEETS a particular specification...but, you then have to read that spec to know what PART of the light this applies to.
Saying it is compliant, rather than approved, would also be legal, if it WERE actually in compliance.
DOT and SAE DO NOT APPROVE anything, there is no such thing as DOT APPROVED or SAE APPROVED.
The MANUFACTURER is the one who SAYS his product MEETS the requirements of DOT or SAE, and, for many lighting companies, ALL that might mean is that they figured out how to make letters appear on a product, such as D's, O's and T's, etc....
Or, maybe, it can mean that DOT requires a light to fit into a particular housing...and theirs fits, so it MEETS that particular DOT specification, but, doesn't mean it meets ANY OTHER DOT specifications, such as the beam distribution pattern, etc.
So, DOT and SAE , do NOT approve PRODUCTS, ever. They issue standards, and, manufacturers can say they MET the standards, but, legally, they CANNOT say that DOT, etc, APPROVED the products.
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Some reseller OF the products don't know this, or, don't care, etc...and advertise that a product is "Dot Approved" or "SAE Approved", etc....but, the product is not, ever.
Its more accurate to say it MEETS a particular specification...but, you then have to read that spec to know what PART of the light this applies to.
Saying it is compliant, rather than approved, would also be legal, if it WERE actually in compliance.
So I'm researching into a retrofit diy.
Seems there are lots of kits with different size projectors with halo lights. Getting the measurements and cutting/fitting is not going to happen anytime soon though.
I'll have to have a back up set to use while I work on the originals.
Going black and yellow of course.
Pikachu ProjeX.
Seems there are lots of kits with different size projectors with halo lights. Getting the measurements and cutting/fitting is not going to happen anytime soon though.
I'll have to have a back up set to use while I work on the originals.
Going black and yellow of course.
Pikachu ProjeX.
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