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Bump Stops

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#1 ·
Why does no one on any of the Xterra boards talk about bump stop extensions? That's the reason I went w/ the Calmini AAL for my PML. Because it came w/ bump stop extensions. However, nothing is EVER mentioned for the front? Does it limit travel? sure it does. But if you have a real 3" SL, then you have extra droop so why not eliminate some of the compression and allow for larger tires?

I think I'm going to take off the factory ones and space them out w/ some flat steel to get some extra protection from tire/body contact.
 
#4 ·
on an IFS system, that is not the case. One wheel can operate independently from the other. The reason to limit up travel is the same as a body lift. To keep the larger tires that the truck was not designed for from coming into contact with the body under articulation. Seriously, this is probably the only truck I've ever seen that does't come with some kind of extended bump stops for the lift kits and it is very strange to me.
 
#7 ·
also i have the 3" SL and i went with 33's and i have yet to hit the body and i have flexed them pretty far.... LOL
Its because you don't have extended bumpstops.. lol
 
#8 ·
on an IFS system, that is not the case. One wheel can operate independently from the other. The reason to limit up travel is the same as a body lift.
This is normally the case but when you have very little uptravel, like the Xterra you have to work with what you have..

Because you may have only 3-4 inches of uptravel once those 3-4 inchs of uptravel are used up, it has to tilt the body up to compensate for the lack of travel in the suspension.. The more room you have, the more uptravel you have before being off camber..

besides, the xterra has a fair bit of room in those wheel wells.. I cant say i've ever hit them either.
 
#10 ·
wait im confused is it becacuse i dont have the extended stops or becacuse my X wants the extended stops but i wont let her have them????? lol
Its because you don't have them.. lol You've never hit the wheel wells regardless of having no bumpstops or not.. hahah
 
#12 ·
I've never stuffed the front that I can recall.
 
#15 ·
you are either going to not have bumpstops and have the possibility of getting farther flex or you are going to have extended bump stops and stop the wheel sooner and never give your self the chance to see if you can go farther. if you cram the wheel well just back up and try a different route. why would you intentionally limit travel in ANY direction on an IFS were limited enough by the design
 
#16 ·
There are some confused posts here...so here are some clarifications:

The purpose of a bump stop is to limit up travel.

You do not WANT to limit uptravel if you want to preserve articulation.

On an IFS suspension, you do not lose the OPPOSITE side articulation, but, you DO LOSE some ability to have the truck stay level on uneven terrain.

A PERFECT suspension would allow the truck to glide over all obstacles while remaining dead level, and the tires would go up/down following the terrain independently of the truck.

If you have a well set-up rig, you try to get as close to this concept as possible.

If the truck is climbing a rock with its drivers side front tire...the tire will rise as you go over the rock.

If the tire CANNOT rise without ALSO RAISING THE TRUCK (Due to a lack of uptravel, etc...), THEN, the TRUCK will be picked UP at that corner.

This is NOT desirable....and is not following the objective to keep the truck level.

Tipping your rig up at one corner is less stable, and, tends to cause you to lose traction as the OTHER side is progressively unweighted.

So -

WHY do kits include bump stop extensions?

1) To avoid having to make room for larger tires to fit.

Just add taller coils, spacers, etc...and the RIDE HEIGHT is high enough to drive around on taller tires.

So the larger tires won't rub on compression, the stops STOP the axle from rising.

This is less capable off road, but, the VAST majority of lift kit buyers get them JUST to fit larger tires...so, it works for THEM.


2) To avoid over compression of shocks.

To provide more DOWN TRAVEL, and reach the ground from the new, higher ride heights....longer shocks are used in most kits.

Shocks that ALSO get short enough to allow UPTRAVEL are more expensive, and therefore, rarely used in most kits.

By simply preventing the axle from rising, and compressing the longer shocks and breaking them, a stop is used to STOP the axle from rising.

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If your tires FIT into your wells, and your shocks compress far enough to allow full stuffage...there is absolutely ZERO benefit to a bump stop extension...ONLY negative effects.

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If the tires hit the fenders/wells on compression, you can raise the fenders/wells with a BL, or, by modifying or removing them..so they are no longer in the WAY of the larger tire when it rises.

This preserves uptravel, and stability off road.

You can of course just use smaller tires.

:D


If your shocks need to be so long when extended to allow full droop, that they simply cannot also compress down to a short enough length to allow full stuffage, you can either move the mounts to a more advantageous position, get different shocks, or add the stop extensions to protect them.

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Summary:

Stops are inherently evil uptravel robbing accessories that do nothing for you except stop your axle from rising and make your rig less stable off road.

They can be a necessary evil if your shock options are a limiting factor, or, you are a poseur.

:wink-big: