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So I was thinking about what I want to do with the x when it's time for a new motor. I love my Xterra but know that the 3.3 is a lil on the weak side and I was wondering how I find out what my options are and what will fit without an insane amount of $$ and customizing.

Any help on where to find out or if anyone knows, your information is greatly appreciated!
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Chevy LS is always the answer
 

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Thehoff801 did you ever get any better information on what our options are an engine swap? My 2001 XE is coming up on 150K and it's fine now, but by 200k maybe not so much. I would think lots of Gen 1 guys are coming up on similar high mileages and other than your post, I'm not finding a lot of discussion.

Here's what I'm thinking and let me know what you think. We don’t drive jeeps. There aren't a wide range of aftermarket crate engines that are probably going to work without a lot of extra effort. For example, I'm looking for a new engine, not a new transfer case, new transmission, etc. I drive a 2001 and Nissan has started discontinuing some parts. It is a 16 year-old truck after all, so we can’t wait another five years and hope there are still parts around.

I’m thinking an engine rebuild is probably the best option, but I’m still checking things out. I’m tempted to pick up another V633DE Nissan engine and rebuild it, so I don’t have to have my current engine out of the truck for months (realistically) while I do the rebuild. Maybe make some upgrades like moving the alternator, so it doesn’t drown every time I cross a mud hole. Maybe looking into ways to improve torque.

Other options that I could think of would be to find a shop to do the rebuild for me. More expensive and I don’t learn anything. Maybe the Gen 2 Xterra’s 4.0L engine would fit in the Gen1 without a lot of hassle. If anyone has done it, please let me know.

Anyone who has done a Gen 1 engine swap, any advice is appreciated.
 

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I've been looking into rebuild/replacement options as well. The word on the VG33E several years ago was that there isn't much you can do but rebuild it to the same gutless specs. I think that line of thought is no longer relevant. People have been successfully punching their blocks out to 3.4L, increasing compression to 10.1 on regular unleaded, doing basic exhaust/intake mods, and getting 50% more power with better mileage. I was thinking about a diesel conversion when the inevitable time comes, but if a basic rebuild with bolt-on mods are all that I need for that much more power, I'm sold.
 

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If you live in a state without visual emissions testing concerns, a VG30E (first gen 300zx) turbo system could be adapted to the VG33E.
 

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I have an 05 an a 03. My 03 has been sitting for a few months now with no engine in it since a bought it. I had been curious about diesel swap options, i`de love to just toss a duramax at it but that`s just day dreaming and i would settle for most any other option. I work for a network of auto recyclers so i can get my hands on just about anything that was released here in the us within the last 15 years. Any suggestions or opinions?
 

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I have an 05 an a 03. My 03 has been sitting for a few months now with no engine in it since a bought it. I had been curious about diesel swap options, i`de love to just toss a duramax at it but that`s just day dreaming and i would settle for most any other option. I work for a network of auto recyclers so i can get my hands on just about anything that was released here in the us within the last 15 years. Any suggestions or opinions?
  • 4BTA or 6BTA Cummins Diesel (My fav idea)
  • 2.8L Duramax Diesel (maybe a Canadian ONLY)
  • 2.8L NEW Cummins (being used in a lot of Jeeps)
  • Titan swap (good ole trusted)
  • LS swap (despite typical and Chevy)

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The Titan engine is bigger and heavier than an LS. I say this bc of the small size of the 1st gen Xterras. LSs are very compact and light. They weigh about the same as a VQ40 from the 2nd gen Xterra.
The problem with the 6.6 Duramax and the Cummins 6BT is that they are really heavy and big externally. To put it this way, the 4BT is basically a 6BT (think Dodge Cummins) with 2 less cylinders. The 4BT weighs like 750lbs so you can imagine how heavy a 6BT is. The 6.6 Duramax is like 900lbs. Cummins 6BT is like 1100lbs.
The GM 2.8 Duramax is of course an option if you either have a bunch of money or are lucky enough to find one in a salvage yard.
Cummins also has a 2.8 4 cylnder crate motor but I think they are $20-$25k.
In my opinion a VQ40 or LS would be the best choices.
 

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The Titan engine is bigger and heavier than an LS. I say this bc of the small size of the 1st gen Xterras. LSs are very compact and light. They weigh about the same as a VQ40 from the 2nd gen Xterra.
The problem with the 6.6 Duramax and the Cummins 6BT is that they are really heavy and big externally. To put it this way, the 4BT is basically a 6BT (think Dodge Cummins) with 2 less cylinders. The 4BT weighs like 750lbs so you can imagine how heavy a 6BT is. The 6.6 Duramax is like 900lbs. Cummins 6BT is like 1100lbs.
The GM 2.8 Duramax is of course an option if you either have a bunch of money or are lucky enough to find one in a salvage yard.
Cummins also has a 2.8 4 cylnder crate motor but I think they are $20-$25k.
In my opinion a VQ40 or LS would be the best choices.
Well some of that I'd have to politely disagree with as weight class being what a concern over. Sure the weight is there, NOT discounting the obvious but you're also missing several other factors. Power and Tq are going to increase as well not to mention power to rate ratios. The Titan motor lends itself to similarities in wiring and technology and it practically bolts in. On top of that if you HAD TO, you could still get a Nissan tech at a dealership to work on it. Possibilities of having to do that if your doing the swap is rare in this case id say but still. The advantage the LS would seem to give is that the randomness of parts are fluently strewn upon ANY autoparts store.. I'm pretty sure thats due to 30 Million recalls, Luck is preparation meets opportunity ;)

I think you would have to not so much do a lot to a 4bt but I think from what I've seen, the 6bt would be more than adequate. GVWR on a 1st gen Xterra vs a Dodge 2500/3500 Single or even dual axle i dont think the vehicle would have a problem dragging the Xterra around being 2300-3500lbs less of a vehicle. Case in point - 6bta Loaded 2nd Gen Xterra::

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And just for good measure, 4BTa loaded Mazda Miata::

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Lil Miata doesnt seem to be struggling with a 745lb engine swapped from its measly and anemic 1.6/1.8L

I will agree finding the Duramax would be a snow balls chance in hell find, it was the idea, and then again there are always crate motors assuming this isn't all based upon what can I find and finance from a junkyard ONLY thought process and Project. To me as a Gear Head and with all do respect, the LS swap just seems like going back to an old Girlfriend over and over because yes its drama, yes its old, yes its PITA, but despite all the anguish its all familiar and mostly tolerable.

Although I dont distrust what the Cummins 2.8L R is capable of, but so far I am impressed. But cost factors are centered around $8000 not $20-25k. Essentially providing everything you need to start your engine with the exception of a battery, cooling package, and of course, diesel fuel! The kit (PN 5467046) also includes:

  • Complete front-end accessory drive (Alternator, Power Steering Pump, Fan Hub, Serpentine Belt)
  • Cam-Driven Vacuum Pump
  • Remote Fuel Filter/Water Separator
  • Remote Oil Filter
  • Mass Airflow Sensor and Housing
  • Engine Wiring Harness and Engine Control Module
  • Starter
  • Flywheel
  • Universal Vehicle Wiring Harness
  • Throttle Pedal
  • J1939 CAN Dash Display
  • Owner’s Manual
  • Installation Guide
  • Cummins Quick Serve Online Access
  • Emissions Testing Information

https://cumminsengines.com/repower.aspx $8999

I sit corrected... But if I become a dealer, I'll give anyone a discount at $14,999.. >:D lol JK


Either way, Plans are a 4BTa is scheduled for my main overland rig, and although the 13' Xterra has just over 70k on the clock. Trust in Nissan's and my skills should allow me just enough time to secure a 6BTa and all that will be needed to do a swap of my own. I have specific plans and needs in mind. For that I need what I need and Cummins fits that build parameter bill.
 
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I wasn't sure about the price on the new Cummins' 2.8 price.
Say what you will about the LS but it is as effective as a sledge hammer. It is also compact and lite weight compared to its competition. Within the same foot print you can get over 6 liters and with the right block over 7 liters.

There is no way I'd put a 6bt in anything but a full sized truck. They are just too heavy for me for anything smaller.

You have to understand where I am coming from. Most of my life was spent in the sports car world. I had a 1st gen Toyota MR2 for 25 years. When you have something that small and light weight you don't just pick any ole engine as a swap. Part of the beauty is the low weight and balance. Miatas are the same way. Even LS swapped Miatas aren't too bad bc some of the wight from the swap is in the transmission and rear end so part of the added weight is pushed rearward so it doesn't change the weight distribution to badly. I have an '07 Xterra 2wd. I believe it only weighs about 4150lbs or so. The VQ40 weighs about what an LS weighs. No way I'd add 700-800lbs to the front by dropping a 6bt in it. Even a 4bt would add 300-350 lbs. Both of which would push the weight distribution further forward, the 6bt more so. As a trail rig the 4bt would probably be pretty badass with some mods though. I would think the 6bt would be overkill though.
Like I said I am coming from a totally different world and mindset so I see things differently. I am also not a fan of diesels unless for a tow rig.
 

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I just saw a 4bt posted on CL about 10 miles from my house. Rebuilt with about 15k for $3500. It has to be the largest 4-cylinder engine I've ever seen. Pretty sure it would require some serious suspension upgrades, and I would be worried about that turbo having enough hood clearance.
 

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I just saw a 4bt posted on CL about 10 miles from my house. Rebuilt with about 15k for $3500. It has to be the largest 4-cylinder engine I've ever seen. Pretty sure it would require some serious suspension upgrades, and I would be worried about that turbo having enough hood clearance.
4bt weighs around 750lbs. In comparison a VQ40 weighs around 450
 

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Sounds like you're leaning toward a Cummins, but thought I would throw in something I discovered today. Ford makes a 3.0L Duratorq Lion V6 turbo diesel that is an option in the Land Rover line. Compact, lightweight, great MPG, 251 HP, and 440 lb-ft of torque. If my 3.3L or the transmission finally dies, there is no question what I will be swapping in. With an EGR delete, DPF delete, and a good tuner, I'll bet you would be looking at 30 MPG and still be able to pull a heavy boat to the river (albeit with lower mileage).
 

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No one has brought up the 1.9 / 2.0 VW TDI.
I have one in my Jeep XJ and well as my kids 2008 JKU and its an amazing little engine. The one in the Cherokee has a bigger turbo and stage 4 tune and it has fantastic power, not what you would get from an LS or 6BT but with a weight about the same as the Stock motor there is no suspension work needed. My XJ actually came up an inch when I swapped out the 4L for the TDI. Fuel mileage almost doubled and the fun factor is cool.
 

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Bump, any other engine swap ideas?
I really have been considering the R2.8 but is there a cheaper, better option? Would a rebuild on the 3.3 be more worth it? How much can you really get out of the engine? (With supercharger, headers, intake, snorkel, exhaust, etc)
 

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Thehoff801 did you ever get any better information on what our options are an engine swap? My 2001 XE is coming up on 150K and it's fine now, but by 200k maybe not so much. I would think lots of Gen 1 guys are coming up on similar high mileages and other than your post, I'm not finding a lot of discussion.

Here's what I'm thinking and let me know what you think. We don’t drive jeeps. There aren't a wide range of aftermarket crate engines that are probably going to work without a lot of extra effort. For example, I'm looking for a new engine, not a new transfer case, new transmission, etc. I drive a 2001 and Nissan has started discontinuing some parts. It is a 16 year-old truck after all, so we can’t wait another five years and hope there are still parts around.

I’m thinking an engine rebuild is probably the best option, but I’m still checking things out. I’m tempted to pick up another V633DE Nissan engine and rebuild it, so I don’t have to have my current engine out of the truck for months (realistically) while I do the rebuild. Maybe make some upgrades like moving the alternator, so it doesn’t drown every time I cross a mud hole. Maybe looking into ways to improve torque.

Other options that I could think of would be to find a shop to do the rebuild for me. More expensive and I don’t learn anything. Maybe the Gen 2 Xterra’s 4.0L engine would fit in the Gen1 without a lot of hassle. If anyone has done it, please let me know.

Anyone who has done a Gen 1 engine swap, any advice is appreciated.
I have a 2000 5-speed rwd with 279k on the odometer.
When Pikachu makes it to 300k I'm having an LS swap done for $7500.
Small 355 going in, with a 6-speed tremec trans.
Custom fab is required but simple enough.
I'm having to beef up my suspension a bit, prior to this being done.
 
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