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Did you check all of the ground wires especially the little black ones connected on top of the timing chain cover on the driver's side? Also the fuses especially the 20 amp yellow ones in the fuse box in the engine compartment passenger side?
 

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Allbrant, I'm assuming the dealership (shop#2) checked all that. For sure Blackberry for sure, will do.
 

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Just my opinion. Most dealerships are in the business to make money. A lot of money. They won't tell you the easiest and cheapest way of doing things. I re-did my 07 engine, all by myself including piston rings, honed the cylinders, rebuilt heads, rod bearings, head gasket kit, water pump, timing chain and tensioners, radiator, hoses, belts, spark plugs, ignition coils, and had the ECM rebuilt. Cost me about $1200. In parts. It would've cost me thousands to have the dealer do it. Unless that dealership is owned by a family or friend, your going to pay a lot more. Don't get me wrong I had to buy a couple things from the dealership too finish the job but they were pricey. Like $10 for a special O ring. My X runs like a dream now.
 

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Most dealerships are in the business to make money. A lot of money.
This could be said about almost all businesses. Everyone loves bashing car dealers until they need a part you can’t find on rock auto or they can’t figure out why the car won’t run. Almost every vehicle I fix that came from another shop, or even worse a DIYer, end up costing hundreds more than it should have.
 

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Howdy, according to the ECM magicians, it's fixed and shipping out today.
One chip was found to be bad. 'It deals with communications and voltage' according to the ECM repair place.

I'll report back on if the X loves us again or not in a couple days, latest I think should be Monday.

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Cris
 

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Well, I've got an update to post. Picked up the X last week (the dealer forgot they had the part in hand (even though I called them to make sure that parts spoke with service etc., cost us two more days. Picked it up Friday, but gave it back as soon as it started up. Sounded like a slam polka band was jamming under the hood. Even though they said it ran "fine" was running a few cylinders short and reeked of unburnt fuel with a c.e.l. on startup.

Two more days and at least the check engine light wasn't on when we picked it up. Two ignition coils & a grand later we've got it back. Ran like it used to run for 4 days. Now the check engine lights come on again on my wife's way home from work tonight. Guess I'll be running it by a parts house to get the codes read if possible.

That's what I know.

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Cris
 

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I hate to say but are you sure they aren't ripping you off!! I would take it to a reputable independent repair specialist.
 

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Well we started off at our local (to my wife's work) i.r.s.. They couldn't determine the reason it wasn't running besides the lack of voltage at most/all of the sensors.

That's who we'll be taking it back to. They've asked us to run it for a couple days days as long as the driveability doesn't deteriorate further.

We were stunned that they (the dealer) didn't have their poop in a group better when we picked it up. They actually said, well we didn't know how it was running before
you dropped it off and we'll need to charge you again for a diagnosis fee in response to the ses being on and their lack of having it ready to go......

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So the latest engine code is a 'P0420' inefficient cat code. Doesn't narrow it down to which one of the four (I think) is bad.
We'll have the indy' shop do that, not the dealer. Looks like about $300.oo will get me a kit on eBay that replaces all 4 cats.

That's what I know.

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With 250K on the truck I'd doubt they'd even be able to be removed, so we'd be buying some (4~) of those too. Mag-chloride is used on the roads here in the snow season & it's pretty hard on hardware. When we replaced broken leaf springs in the rear, the heat wrench needed to be used.

Cris
 
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