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Has trouble starting but runs perfect

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#1 ·
Over the past couple of months my 2001 3.3 X has experienced intermittent starting issues but runs perfect once started. The battery is fine and I'll turn the key to the "on" position and leave it there for several seconds before full ignition. I figure by doing so, the fuel pump has time to pressurize. In doing so is it safe to assume it isn't so much a fuel delivery problem as it is distributor/spark plug wires? I've also checked for vacuum leaks beneath the hood and everything appears to be sealed.

My car has 160k and the wires and distributor have never been replaced.
 
#4 · (Edited)
I would still look into fuel delivery. I had similar issue on my old BMW...once it got started it ran fine, but it had trouble getting there. Turned out there was a small slit in a fuel line that went to the fuel injector rail. Basically what I figured was happening...after sitting a while, the fuel would slowly leak out of the injector area...making it tough to start after sitting a little bit and the fuel rail not primed so to speak...but it wasn't a big enough leak to cause it to not run under load...small enough hole where it still held enough pressure.

Try some starter fluid in the intake...if it cranks up quickly, that would seem to indicate there is no fuel.
 
#6 ·
Sorry.... I don't quite follow you. So if you do the key on before starting thing it fires up no problem? If so then probably faulty fuel pressure regulator or leaky injectors is my guess. Best way to tell is to install a fuel pressure gauge at the fuel delivery hose on the pass side valve cover area. Start the engine make sure there is no leaks then shut the motor off and see if the pressure drops while it sits (engine off) it should hold pressure on the the system (I believe the spec is 51psi) If it drops anymore then 10psi in 5 min then I would pinch the return line and retest it. If it holds its a regulator problem and if it still leaks you have a leaky injector(s)
hope this helps
 
#7 ·
It does not fire up effortlessly after turning it to "on" which is why I believe it may be related to the distributor/spark plug wires. By doing this I have given the pump adequate time to pressurize the line and that still doesn't solve my slow start problem. Therefore, I think it is less of a fuel delivery problem, as everything is pressurized, and more of a spark issue. I noticed the first attempt when trying to start it takes 4 seconds. If I turn the car off immediately after the first attempt and turn the key to ignition, it fires up immediately, no problem.
 
#9 ·
i would try the wires and just break down and pay a shop to replace the #6 plug and go ahead and do the other 5 just so theyre all new and same. also do the cap and rotor and maybe a fuel filter and pcv valve wouldnt hurt either.
 
#11 ·
I have this EXACT SAME ISSUE! I would say my starts are a little better after letting it sit with the key for a few seconds though. Here's what I have done which has NOT fixed the problem so you can cross things off your list.
PARTS REPLACED:
-Timing belt
-New dist cap and rotor
-all sparkplugs and wires
-Fuel filter
-seafoamed it to death

As far as distributor goes, take off your cap and see if there is play up and down with the shaft. Mine had no play and therefor I have crossed it off my list.

Which brings me to agreence with previous posts.
I took it to a few reputable shops and they all had different opinions but all were associated with fuel delivery(pump/injector) btw- fuel pressure regulator is behind #6 sparkplug on firewall from what I can tell so don't get too excited about that one!

I will keep you posted on if its a fuel pump- will be crossing that off within the month.

Good luck and let us know if you fix it!



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#12 ·
The 2nd gens have a recall on the ECM relay that causes something like this. Mine hasn't been changed yet, but sometimes it struggles to get going for a few seconds, then runs fine.
 
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