I just called shrockworks to get an estimate on how long it will take to get the front winch bumper and they said there on a 3 month lead to ship. wow thats crazy. im thinkin of just takin a little road trip down there and saving myself the wait

I just called shrockworks to get an estimate on how long it will take to get the front winch bumper and they said there on a 3 month lead to ship. wow thats crazy. im thinkin of just takin a little road trip down there and saving myself the wait

You do realize that the wait is 3 months (to make it), THEN they ship it...and it shows up a few days later?

Driving there would save the cost of shipping, get it a few days sooner, and, if they still do it, they help you mount it as long as you're there too.

Food for thought.

:D

3 months to make it? dam im to impatient with things like that

3 months to make it? dam im to impatient with things like that

Well, others got in line before you did...you made SHROCK wait.

:P

Seriously, they only make a few at a time....so as orders come in, the units are going out to the people who ordered 3 months ago.

They do get ahead...and reduce the waits to maybe 6-12 weeks...but, they never promise unless they "know" they can do it.

No one ever complains about getting something early....one day late, and there's HELL to pay.

:D

yea i guess your right lol. is the shrock bumper the best they make for the x

arguably the best. arb makes a bumper thats just as good.

i live about a hour or so away from shrock so if i ever buy a bumper or anything from them i will drive up there and get it myself.. LOL

the driving part doesnt bother me i love taking road trips with the x. its the 3 months that i have to wait to get it made is the problem. ill look into the arb also and see how it is. any complaints on the arb?

have a custom bumper made by matt at whiterockfab (whiterockfab@yahoo.com)

he makes great stuff and is cheaper than shrock, and lives about 10 hours away in NC (just drove down there from NJ to pick mine up)

arguably the best. arb makes a bumper thats just as good.

LOL

The ARB is well made...the powder coat and welds are top notch...but:

1) Its skin is weaker 10 gauge sheet metal, not 3/16" plate steel.

2) Its maximum strength steel is 3/16", not 3/8" - 1"

3) Its weight is about the same, despite weaker metal, as it covers areas that do not to be covered, wasting material/adding weight that adds no function.

4) Its approach angle is not as good.

5) It has (According to ARB) tabs to hook your winch hook to, but no recovery points (They have been pulled out of the bumper when mistakingly used for recovery by some people...)

6) You can't order one for a BL, and you have to cut OFF its mounting system to use one with a BL.

So - In comparison...while still a perfectly fine bumper, one that works/does the job....it breaks even on quality, but falls behind in function....as the Shrock does every thing it does, better.

You can clear more obstacles with a better approach angle, and we have measured the ARB, and its approach angle is not as good.

You can resist more damage with stronger steel plate, than with sheet metal, and we have seen ARB's damaged by things Shrock's shrug off....like deer, etc.

We have done BL's and tried to mount ARB's vs Shrocks, and the Shrocks are just bolt on, the ARB's require significant effort/fab work relative to that.

The Shrocks have thick steel recovery points that are part of a continuous steel plate that mounts directly to the frame horns...so that recovery points are directly attached to the frame, and welded through the bumper for added strength....ARB has winch hook tabs that "look like" recovery points.

And so forth.

So - "Arguably" is sort of a misnomer...the Shrock is a better bumper.

If you like the way one looks over the other....that's subjective, and you can have any opinion you want to.

If you want to argue that 10 gauge sheet metal is stronger than steel plate, or that a recovery point attached to the frame is weaker than a winch hook tab, or that 3/16" is stronger than 3/8" steel, or that its better to have the bumper in the way more on approach...well, go for it....but its not a strong set of arguments.

:D

(I am NOT bashing ARB's btw - nothing wrong with them....but, Shrock's are better bumpers.)

hmm good write up. i think ill go with the shrock and just wait. ugh what will i do for these long 3 months lol

ugh what will i do for these long 3 months lol


Wait and hope it only takes 3 months. :mocking:

Shrockworks isn't like ARB or TJM or any of the heep fab companies. His bumpers are made to order. He doesn't build up a stock of bumpers to have lying around. His products are in high demand so he is booked up year round. You also have to remember that this is tax return season and a LOT of people put their returns towards stuff like that. He was probably already running on backorders left over from the Christmas rush too.

I noticed Petersons used a Shrock when they modded the Suzuki Frontier thingie.

:D

(The Suzuki Equator based on the Nissan Frontier...)

is the shrock bumper on the 4x4parts.com or is that only the arb model

is the shrock bumper on the 4x4parts.com or is that only the arb model

They have the Shrock too.

They have them in different armor sections, to be confusing I suppose.

:D


The ARB is in one section of armor, called ARB Bull Bars.

The Shrock is in armor under OFF ROAD BUMPERS

https://www.4x4parts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=90_330_192_536&products_id=5437


You have to use the pull-down menus to get the tubes and powdercoat, color, shackles, etc, that you want.

but when you order the shrock from 4x4parts you still have the same wait. you just have to deal with a middle man.

aye there's the rub.

:D

That's a prime reason to get something else...not being ABLE to wait.

There's an old saying in the military...a poor plan, executed now, is better than a great plan executed too late.

So - for anyone...if you have the gift of time...use it.

If not, I'd look at a TJM next.

:D

or you could have a little birdy sit on your shoulder telling you to get a jeep bumper and make a set of brackets to mate it up...

or you could have a little birdy sit on your shoulder telling you to get a jeep bumper and make a set of brackets to mate it up...

Tell the birdy to go to MAX'S HOUSE and get my welder back.

:D

I have the ARB no issues.

Bolts in with out a problem unless your frame is bent.

Everyone says its weaker, but at what point is too much and you sacrifice weight. So far things I have hit with it and no damage to the bumper:
* Rocks
* Trees
* Backed into once ripped off the other guys reat bumper
* One big Mule Deer
* Grazed a Concrete barrier
* Lack of a better description... Huge Rock Mtn in Moab put me to a dead stop

Its lighter

Its cheaper if you shop around

Dont have to wait for it

Yep you have to mod something (frame or bumper for a BL)

Recovery points... those loops are not it. Weld some on.


I would have gone with a shrock or calmini but they both weighed more. And hell I have trimmed down mine quite a bit as well to keep the weight down even more.

Shrock makes a good bumper but you will have to wait for it.

The Shrock weighs 105 lb

The guy at ARB said the ARB weighs 105 lb.

Is it just me, or is that close to being the same weight?

As for surviving stuff, sure the ARB can survive stuff...its a steel bumper...not a brushguard...but, it can't survive more than the Shrock....you have to weld on it to even add the missing features, and even just to mount it if you have a BL (And don't want a gap or weaker mount of course), and so forth.

So - again, not bashing ARB...its fine...but the FACTS regarding less but thicker metal, which helps to result in a better approach angle, and a stronger recovery and mount, as they are integrated to the frame, etc...and the ease of installation with a BL, already having STRONG recovery points, etc, simply put the Shrock ahead.

The ARB is available fast though....if you want one, they have them laying around gathering dust in the warehouses, and the factory can churn out more if you use them up too.

Obviously, add the time and cost to have the welding and so forth done to make it fully functional like a Shrock if comparing on that basis.

(I read it, and its sounds like I'm bashing ARB...but I'm not...just laying out the facts. There's a difference between good, and better. Just because something's better, doesn't make the thing that's good, less good....its still good)

:D

Hope that helps!

ARB MAKES $ on TJM btw -which I recommended after Shrock, and before the ARB model.

Correct me if I am wrong but on the 4x4Parts website theres is a BL option for the first gen Xterra ARB bumper.

https://www.4x4parts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=90_330_192_536&products_id=5437

Will

whats the TJM bumper?

just ordered my shrock bumper, skid plate and steering stabalizer. look what you guys on this forum made me do lol

Correct me if I am wrong but on the 4x4Parts website theres is a BL option for the first gen Xterra ARB bumper.

https://www.4x4parts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=90_330_192_536&products_id=5437

Will

That is not the ARB bumper.

This is for Shrock.

just ordered my shrock bumper, skid plate and steering stabalizer. look what you guys on this forum made me do lol

Very Good choice


:anbeten-big:

I cant wait for all that stuff to arrive so I can get started. hopefully ill have everything done before summer

I just finally saved up for one, I'll be ordering mine soon, hopefully the lead time is shorter :(

I really don't want to wait 3 loooooooooooooooong months

I have the ARB no issues.

Bolts in with out a problem unless your frame is bent.

Everyone says its weaker, but at what point is too much and you sacrifice weight. So far things I have hit with it and no damage to the bumper:
* Rocks
* Trees
* Backed into once ripped off the other guys reat bumper
* One big Mule Deer
* Grazed a Concrete barrier
* Lack of a better description... Huge Rock Mtn in Moab put me to a dead stop

Its lighter

Its cheaper if you shop around

Dont have to wait for it

Yep you have to mod something (frame or bumper for a BL)

Recovery points... those loops are not it. Weld some on.


I would have gone with a shrock or calmini but they both weighed more. And hell I have trimmed down mine quite a bit as well to keep the weight down even more.

Shrock makes a good bumper but you will have to wait for it.

I agree w/ you Kev!
I have an ARB on my '01 X and I have winched people out of holes w/ no problems at all. I had my bumper modified to fit my 2" BL and no issues at all. there has been a few times where I have smacked my bumper on some big ass rocks up @ Rausch Creek and had no problems.
Shrock does make a great bumper but if you want it you will have to wait for it... Just because a bunch of people say Shrock has the better bumper just remember that there other option out there that are as good or even better then Shrock bumpers. ARB or Calmini or you can get someone to fab up one for you like Brian (baf6) did.

Gongrats on ordering the Shrock. It will be worth the wait. I had to wait 2 months for mine.

I wouldn't hesitate to order an ARB bumper again if I was in the market for one. I abused the hell out of my last one on the old Xterra and I have no complaints about them. Hopefully your wait for the Shrock will be less than quoted. It's worth it though. I love my Shrock bumper I have now.

Congrats!

Almost a month since i ordered mine. went by pretty fast but still anxious

Got over the Shrock bumper, e-mailed them a few times, no response. Bad customer service, my money goes elsewhere, gonna order the KMA bumper this week.

Got over the Shrock bumper, e-mailed them a few times, no response. Bad customer service, my money goes elsewhere, gonna order the KMA bumper this week.

I'm just surprised your not getting an response...try checking spam folder? Try calling them.
I've had no issues with Shrock on emails except once but after 2nd attempt, I got an response...
Shrock quality is TOP-NOTCH! Has everything I need from D-shackles rings to 2" BL option....etc....it was well worth the wait for me.

sorry to bring up an old thread but just got an email confirmation that the bumper is ready to ship. wow march 17th to june 26th. it will be well worth it though

Whats the wait period for the ARB? I need to get the front end fixed on my X and dont really plan on keeping the stock bumper. I will not EVER need the 2" body lift option so Ill be fine with the ARB.

if you get it from 4x4 parts then im pretty sure they said the arb bumper is in stock. as to what they told me in a email

just got the bumper today but was a little disapointed when the skid plate wasnt with it which i ordered. i guess more waiting now then. will post pics tomorrow

Got over the Shrock bumper, e-mailed them a few times, no response. Bad customer service, my money goes elsewhere, gonna order the KMA bumper this week.

i just noticed this... did you have any luck with KMA???? if i was you i would have called shrock cause there cust service is very good... i be there replies to your questions were in your junk folder wasent it???


and mod i can t wait to see the bumper installed...

ordered my shrock front and rear for my 2nd gen was told 2mo lead time...and i cant wait to get them...

Heres all the skids installed finally. http://i511.photobucket.com/albums/s352/m3xterra/100_0647.jpg

and now for the bumper which I am disapointed in all because I have the gap between it and I ordered the one with the body lift option and they didnt send me the front skid plate also. Ive never heard anything bad about shrock but waiting 3 months down the drain wasnt worth 1200 buckshttp://i511.photobucket.com/albums/s352/m3xterra/100_0648.jpg

I would call Jim ASAP! That's inexcusable regardless of what company you're dealing with. My guess is shipping error. Somebody else got yours and is pissed because it won't fit. Either way, he needs to make things right.

X2 on what Drake said.

I had the same exact incident you had....They shipped me the bumper with standard center hoop when I specifically ordered it pre-runner style (even confirmed this with Kevin at least 5 times before ordering) so they maned up and had the bumper shipped back to them at their expense, and redid the design and shipped it to me (overall it took about 3 months). Now that's top quality customer service!

Give Shrock a call and explain the mistakes and they'll work with you like they did with me.

Just talked to them and they didnt ship me the wrong one. They just didnt make the right one that I ordered. Everything else was correct on it except for the body lift option. They said that there goin to credit me 200 bucks so I can fab up some brackets to raise it. Im not goin to wait another 3 months for a chance that it might happen again. Small mix up but still a incredible product

At least they offered to give you 200 bucks back so better than most companies would just shun you and say "Get over it" attitude.

Shouldn't be too hard to fab up some brackets though.

Yea it could have been alot worse. Just another thing to put on the list to do now

There also giving me a set of hella 500s for the mix up so maybe I lucked out