i havent ordered it yet, but this is the fan i think ima get
http://www.flex-a-lite.com/auto/html/27inch-electric.html

one of the fans will be RIGHT behind the tranny cooler i put on, it pulls a massive 4600CFM when the vehicle is stopped
this is gonna be great, i have no idea the price either, i just know that this is the one!!

OMFG 527.34 for a fan.... At least the idea sounded cool, i cant see buying a fan for that much, you would really want to have it.

oh lord jesus, thats NOT the one im getting then
crap, thats the second time a fail this week, lol

Holy shite! They really think a lot of their fans don't they? That's insane!

I'm going with the tranny cooler and hopefully an oil cooler as well. Maybe I can jack a fan kit off a junker somewhere.

Anybody know of any vehicles that have a dedicated electric cooling fan that could be added to an X? Just an ideer.

Not to say dont keep looking because that was the only price i was able to find.... you may be able to find something cheaper if you look longer

Check out honda civics/accords. I can't remember which one I had (I've had 4) but I remember it having an electric fan. Maybe with some modifications to the mount and wiring, you could get it in the X.

could use this as a pusher, but i was really hoping to replace the stock fan
http://www2.partstrain.com/partlisting/full/nissan/xterra/electric_cooling_fan/2000/2002.html?ptc=S1171391678W45d204bec356b&ptk=2000+2001+2002+Nissan+Xterra+Electric+Cooling+ Fan+-+Nissan+00+01+02+Electric+Cooling+Fan

or the same one i listed earlier for less $
http://www.automotiveconcepts.net/store/Nissan-Xterra_product_1315965149.html?utm_source=google_p roducts&utm_medium=organic

Why do all of these specify only for 2000 to 2002 X's?

the hell if i know, but i know im more than capable of riggin shiz on there

There is a solution for you, but flex-a-lite ain't it. I looked into those for my stepside, but couldn't justify the price. What you need to do is head into a junkyard armed with a tape measure. Find yourself a FWD car or minivan that has dual fans about the right size. Windstars and Taurus' make good donors for fullsize trucks, you may see if you can find something for the X. Just has to be dimensionally close, covering most of the rad, and staying out of the way. Then you just fab yourself up some brackets and mount it in there. Should cost you $50 or less all said and done.

oh god im an idiot!!
the nissan quest from the year 1999-2002 has a VG33E with an electric fan!!!
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/search/?N=11384+1684+4294967263+6852

I (being the broke stingy bastard that I am) also am converting to electric fans. in the 4 cyl jeeps the fan is about 1.5 feet from the friggen radiator! I have the dual electric fan set up from my 2001 vw gti I parted out that is going on the wrangler. definitely not a direct bolt up by any means but I am about finished adapting the fan shrouds to fit the jeeps radiator and mounting points. if I get a chance I will try to put up sme pics and a little diy story to go along.

it'll be interesting to see it first hand come memorial weekend ryan(still coming?)

as far as xterra elec fan conversions, this loks promising
http://www.nissantruckclub.com/ntc/zzforum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10709&SearchTerms=fans

oh lord jesus, thats NOT the one im getting then
crap, thats the second time a fail this week, lol

DUDE... I found this same fan i the J.Yard last week... I think they want like $50.00 for it....

Which junk yard??

Which junk yard??

A&G in C.G.....I pulled it and shuved it in a blue mazda in the holding yard!... It came out of the Nissan truck that my new motor came from.

Are you gonna buy it?? If not i will go pick it up!

Are you gonna buy it?? If not i will go pick it up!

Ya... BABY.....!! I'm gunna use it in my Sand Dune Buggy....

Ok. it almost sounded like you didnt want it anymore.... but cant blame me for trying:thumbsup-big:

Ok. it almost sounded like you didnt want it anymore.... but ok :)

Richie, your still in for the PNWC right?.....I can count on you correct?...

Sure!.... for what?

Sure!.... for what?

I didn't mean to H.J. this thread but Were starting up the PACIFIC NORTHWEST CHAPTER OF C/X..... we have our 1st meet and greet comin this summer and alot of other COOOL C/X products on the board!!

This will be in THE NEWZ ... sooon!!! Sorry Drake and Jason....Da CAT iz scratchin at da door!.... LetEMout....

RICER!!! Your killing me smalls!! Why do you need that much cooling?? Did you read my performance parts sticky at all?!!???? A Zirgo 16" fan will cost you around $75 and puts our 3000cfm... Hell get 2 of them if you want some crazy cooling lol... Plus A NISMO thermostat if you really wanna keep it cold...

RICER!!! Your killing me smalls!!

Bringing it back to the Sandbox! NICE!!!

i liked that one bc one of the fans would be directly behind my tranny cooler

plus it gets hot as shit here in the south

WHAT'S THE DIAMETER OF THE STOCK FAN?
the $100 flex-a-lite is a 14" and it says its for the xterra, the zirgo mentioned by chris is a 16" for $75
which do i get to fit in the fan shroud just right?

you want to stick to a un-modified stock shroud or are you willing to hack it up??

I will go out and measure the stock fan in a few minutes, i actually was going to last night but I couldnt find my tape measure..

I am also thinking about re-selling the 16" zirgo for the twin Maxima fax.. Thinking, I was going to do that install with the Zirgo starting last night but I started to have second thoughts... I HATE having second thoughts after I bought something!!!

i think ima go with the 16" zirgo s blade 3000cfm
3000cfm sounds good to me
my coolant temp got a lil too high for my tastes in traffic on lunch, 206 degrees, to hell with that

gonna buy one for the 4runner also

Zirgo makes a HD version that is not listed on their website that puts out 3500cmf!! At least thats what I have been told by sellers on eBay.. If you just type in 16" Zirgo on eBay you can find everything and they list the rated CMF...

Also HAYDEN 3647 is an electric fan control kit that will control 1 or 2 fans and turn it on with a adj. thermostat that is inserted into the radiator fins ALONG with a A/C switch.. I still need to pick one up, it cost $34.99 at my local AutoZone....

ordering 3 electric s blade fans
2 16" 3000cfm for the runner and X
and 1 10" 1050cfm for krys' rolla bc her ride only has one fan covering not even 1/2 the rad/condensor

total $324

which ones did you get??

oh did you ever measure I went outside and it was raining and I said screw it lol..

dosent matter, ill make it fit, lol

if the fan shroud hole is too small ill make it bigger

thats the spirit!!

dustin you plan on mounting it to the shroud or directly to the radiator?? i am debating on the two.. ditch the shroud totally and mount the fan directly to the radiator, or chop up the shroud and mount it like 1" back from the radiator???

i am mounting it to the shroud, if i dont it wont pull near as much air thru the tranny cooler, probably far less than it does stock, bc my cooler is in the VERY corner and mounting straight to the rad the fan prob would physically be able to cover ANY of the tranny cooler thus pulling zero air thru it
this mod is about efficiency my friend the fan shroud makes the fan much more efficient

sounds good to me.. If I get my speakers mounted in a timely fashion this weekend I will do the fan conversion and MAYBE the trans cooler as well... I may do write ups for both to...

im just gonna do a basic relay setup, where the circuit only recieves power when ignition in ON and operation will be controlled by a switch, no thermostat or AC controls, i have deemed them unnecessary for my needs

I am more for the automatic controls myself, if you start to overheat and dont realize it or forget about the fan completely?? thats the only reason I want a thermostat/ac switch, because I KNOW I will forget.. Or if I let someone borrow my car I wouldn't want to say if it starts to overheat or you want to use the AC flip this switch lol..

my switch would rarely(if ever) be in the off position

my switch would rarely(if ever) be in the off position

whatever responce I have in my head right now I know what your answer will be hahaha

"my quest alternator will take care of the problem"

I have driven about 1000 miles now after replcing my fan with an electric one, a 165 degree thermostat instead of the 195 degree, and a k&n panel filter. I can run 75 mph on the hwy with ac on and in 5th gear. before I had to shift to 4th just to stay at 60 with ac off to go up any type of incline. I have sat in traffic for a good while and the guage sits @ 160 degrees . fuel economy increased dramtically too. altogether about $75 and 3 hours of work.

what do you think you think you got for a MPG increase??

Oh I am asking because TJ scared when when he told me with a 165* stat you would do more harm that good...

my fans come in tomorrow
so tomorrow i do an alt install and an e-fan conversion!

i needs a switch, relay, inline fuses and wires!

is any hardware needed for the clutch fan, i havnt looked, after its removed is the same hardware reused to re-attach the pulley or is additional hardware needed??

what pulley?
you just remove fan shroud, remove fan, remove fan clutch, then install your new crap
if there is a pulley its just an idle pully after the fan is off
but in reality, i havent even looked, prob is a pulley, there was one on jason's pathy

the clutch fan pulley is the pulley that also runs the waterpump.... So it will not be an idler and it will have to be reinstalled unless you convert to an electric water pump as well :)

well it will be 50% more idle than before in the wild world of dustin's made up technical terminology

just think about how much load is being educed from that pulley turning the water pump AND the clutch fan!!!! A 50% reduction must really help everything out!! :)

dustin you remove the clutch and leave the pully there... it not you wont have running water in yo X....

Oh I am asking because TJ scared when when he told me with a 165* stat you would do more harm that good...
just a guess, easily 4-6 mpg. as for the lower temp thermostat....what did you hear that would harm the performance? I don't want to *F* anything up.

just a guess, easily 4-6 mpg. as for the lower temp thermostat....what did you hear that would harm the performance? I don't want to *F* anything up. Check it out: http://www.clubxterra.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4119 Not sure if you have a NISMO thermostat or not but its a lower temp temp just like the one you have posed about... Oh and those are GREAT results!!! I cant wait to finally finish mine!!

4-6mpg??? i think i just came in my pants



on another note, ryan you gots a txt msg

4-6mpg??? i think i just came in my pants



on another note, ryan you gots a txt msg I didnt know gas millage was that HAWT!!! http://www.incmobs.com/blogimg/josiegaspump.jpg sorry had to :)

Hello all,

I have recently done an e-fan conversion and was wondering if any one has a suggestion or experience with setting the "ON" temperature on the fan controller. I purchased an adjustable 2 fan controller with a therisistor that is placed inbetween radiator fins near the top coolant tube. I know the stock thermostat opens at arouns 190 and want to ensure that the engine will go in and out of open and closed circulation modes...ie opperate properly and efficiently.

Thanks for your time and help,
A1
boulder

It opens at 186, and I would set mine to the same. When I did mine, I am in CO so I put mine at 180 thermostat, 180 temp switch.

Thanks for the quick reply, just a quick question...possibly a brain fart on my part but if the fan is set to turn on at180 and the thermostat opens at 186-190 won't the fan cool down the coolant temp enough to prevent the thermostat from opening?

Thanks for the quick reply. BTW I'm in Boulder, got a white 02sc'd X, j met you a while ago on the hill across from the Fox (names Adam) I asked you a bunch of ?'s about BL and PML...ur fenders were still off....any way a quick question: if the thermostat opens At 186-190 and you set the egan to come on at 180, won't it cool the coolant to a point so that the thermostat never opens? Sorry if it's a dumb question, I just wanna understand.
Also what is normal operating temp for the 02 sc'd 5sp X's?
Thanks for your time,
Adam

Yeah that would, but I got a 180 degree thermostat, and installed that instead.

I do remember you though. Glad to see you on the board.:)

So I've read the other posts somewhat but wanted your opinion and experiences (as well as reasoning) behind installing the 180 thermostat--if you'd be willing to share:) I'm assuming the idea is to provide more ?open? (or closed, I'm a little confused on the proper terminology) Loop cooling time; meaning coolant is circulating through rad rather than remaining stationary and therefor providing cooler NOT and better performance?
also what's your opinion on shocks for a uca lift:bills or rancho 5000's... and when doing uca's is it necessary to do aal's with shackles or r shackles alone sufficient to balance the "3in" front lift from 4x4parts. Sorry to bombard u with all this I'm just trying to get parts ordered and instaled b4 the snow and darkness arrives. Thanks AGAIN for your time
A1

Search your suspension question.

The reasoning behind the lower temp is the elevation. I believe, and do not quote me on this, there is a degree difference between every 1000 feet or so.

i got theses off ebay and they work great, i had them on my 87 4x4 hardbody as well. i got them to turn on with the ignition and i have a manual turn off switch so when im wheelin and i go threw and water i can turn them off and back off after.

12" 1550 CFM Push/Pull Slim Radiator Fans+Mounts x2

they where $39.95 buy it now for 2 fans 1550 CFM Each for a Total of 3100 CFM Setup.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200354651253&viewitem=

http://www.bluetechautohaus.com/images/PST/Feb18th/RF-12X2-1.gif
the ones i got are like the ones below but alot cheaper i can make everything else
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there is a company that makes a direct fit kit - http://www.concept-customs.com/

http://www.concept-customs.com/Vehicle_Application/Nissan/Xterra/Photos/Fan%20Shroud%201.JPG

Electric Fan Conversions for the 2000-2004 Nissan Xterras.

This kit will include a natural finish aluminum shroud with cutout for either (1) 16" electric fan, or (2) 14" electric fans, and a lower radiator hose connection pipe with a 3/8" NPT bung for a temp switch.

Options will include (1)16" electric fan, or (2) 14" electric fans, brand new high capacity radiator from Performance Radiator, and a switch and relay kit with wiring harness.

Prices starting at around $255

A couple of questions:

What is the longest number of years that any of you have ran e-fans?
Has anyone ran these long enough to have a fan fail?
Would a dual fan setup be better than a single fan setup in case one did fail? Would one fan be able to keep temp from going critical?

Thanks!

4 1/2 years allmost, they ran up to the day someone ran into the back of my Hardbody and distroyed the Truck but the fans still worked after that and i have them in my garage ready to go into my xterra.

keep in mind oem electric fans go bad and fail also the clutch fan only last so long then it craps out as well.

I think 2 fans would provide a redundancy that 1 fan could not.

I have (1) 16" fan in a shroud, ~ 3,000 cfm. Its been in a couple of years, off road a few times, etc.

I put it in, as I had to replace the belt driven fan anyway....and it was cheaper to get the electric than the fan/clutch, etc to stay belt driven.

Crawling along in summer heat, running the AC, etc...has not phased it, so it seems to work great. The belt driven one also worked great until it went south, etc.

:D

If the shroud is fitted for 2 fans, I think the surface area being drawn through would be greater with 2 smaller fans than 1 larger fan...so, theoretically at least, a double fan set up, even with the same TOTAL CFM, would work better than the same total CFM and a single fan.

The amps for 2 smaller fans might be greater than for one larger single fan...but that would be highly dependent upon the specifics of the fan motors being compared.

If the amp draw is too high, your alternator has to work harder, and the ALTERNATOR is belt driven, so a higher load induces belt drive related engine drag.

:D


PS - SOME early 2000 Xterra's HAD an electric, rather than a mechanical fan...but they all went belt driven by the end of 2000.

It might be possible to FIND that set-up, and use it for a swap.

the OEM setup on mine is a clutch fan and a e-fan on the ac condenser... one of these days i want to swap to the fans that are linked in this thread.... i dont think i am going to go with the custom setup cause i plan on trying to do my own...

Does sticking wire ties through the cooling fins cause any additional significant wear / tear on the radiator itself?

That second pic is the one that is on my truck right now. Absolutely ZERO problems:)

Hate to resurrect the thread but its better than starting yet another on E-fans.

I'm thinking about doing this to my X. I'd like to do it when I rip everything apart to swap out the water pump/timing belt, but cost is my only major detractor (since I need to buy that parts for the timing belt AND new tires :( and I've been wanting to put a Intake in the beast for a year now)

That and I quite don't know what i need, or what I would need to do to do an e-fan conversion. Any writeups around to get clues? I've poked around for about an hour now and this is really the only substantial thread I can find. What fans and/or mods do you guys recommend. The Concept Customs seems like a good deal since I can also try and spring for a new radiator from them too. I don't think this is a conversion I will get to do before I leave for Japan but its one I want to buy the things for and be ready to do when I get back.

For a fan, take your tape measure to the junkyard. Anything that is front wheel drive will have a transversely mounted motor, and will have electric fans by default. This should keep your costs down if you are looking to save a few bucks, and if you can find a yard that's actually fair. If you're looking for something that will be more than enough, grab some fans out of a minivan with a decent sized motor. I've got a ford windstar dual fan setup in my wheeler, and most of the time I only use one side of it, cools the V8 just fine.

For supplies, you need a temperature switch, and one relay per fan. Some wires and connectors go without saying. I use a separate fuse for each fan too. If you want manual control, get some more wire and put some switches in the cab. Only use the switches to control the relays though, so your current carrying wires stay nice and short, and you avoid voltage drops.

The temperature switch is the tricky part, you have to figure out where to mount one in the cooling system. Chances are if are good with electricity, you can find a way to do it with your current sensors though, instead of adding a separate temperature switch.

I have a dual fan outta a ford winstar or maybe try this
http://www.yotatech.com/f116/taurus-fan-install-writeup-3-0-v6-14622/

i will get pics of how the thermostat is run on mine soon hopefully

Does sticking wire ties through the cooling fins cause any additional significant wear / tear on the radiator itself?

The "special ties" that most aftermarket companies include with the kit do in fact, might I say ABSOLUTELY cause lots of problems with an electric fan conversion. Firstly, the kit's these guys sell are generally designed for street vehicles that rarely see much "intense" vibrations. Most of us here "wheel" at least at some point. Second, that being said, imagine the fan being lashed to the radiator directly with these, they aren't really tight by any means, and add these vibrations. How long do you suppose that thing can just rub the radiator before it makes it's own hole?? Lastly, and not to be completely redundant, I have another post elsewhere on ClubX about this exact subject, but lets just imagine how easy it is to completely trash those tiny little 30 gauge fins on the radiator, simply be trying to get the stupid fan shroud out of there.... now imagine the stress on these little things (the fins) when you hang a 5 pound fan on there, and bounce down a dirt road on, oh lets say softball sized rocks (not to mention if you are a guy like me that runs across rocks larger than basketballs for 8-10 hours straight!) Those peices of junk just rip the fins apart! I use an aluminum shroud (fabricated myself) and still I carry a propane torch and solder on the trail anyway.. I know these guys with the "special zip ties", and I have even had the occasional stick wanting to play joust... they find a way! I know this is a little abstract, but hopefully enough to the point.

Thanks for the quick reply, just a quick question...possibly a brain fart on my part but if the fan is set to turn on at180 and the thermostat opens at 186-190 won't the fan cool down the coolant temp enough to prevent the thermostat from opening?

This has been a question asked fairly regularly about E-fan conversions. The T-stat is actually controlling the temp of coolant that "leaves" the engine. This ensures optimum combustion chamber temps - at sea level this is typically 190-198 deg F, and is lowered based on elev above sea level (lower ambient temp = higher air density.) Actual air temp inside combustion chamber is much higher, but the cooling effect of the cylinder wall is what were focusing on here. Being that, only after the ambient temp of coolant currently inside the engine rises above 180 deg (approximate ideal combustion chamber temp for our altitude), the T-stat opens to allow coolant flow, and the E-fan coolant sensor monitors these temps and turns on the fans accordingly.

The setup used in our system (any other "designed" system - there are many of them out there, but maybe not for the X) will only turn on when it sees temps in coolant supply greater than the 180 deg. This ensures that the coolant the enters the engine coolant "intake" is always cooler than the 180 deg that the T-stat turns on at, thus ensuring the ability to actually "remove" excess heat.

We all know that lowering the temp a bit helps keep everything cooler, but that can be a double edge sword. It is very easy to make this decision based on "temps", but this decsion make come at the price of realized performance, and consequently actually adding more load to an engine by introducing less efficient combustion temps and therefore creating more heat.

For what it's worth from an apparent noob, I've had great luck with an e-fan from a '02 chevy malibu controlled by a coolant temp sensor pluged into the upper radiator hose (that's just downstream from the stock temp sensor). I just used a couple of pieces of aluminum and the remains of the stock shroud to fashion a mount directly to the radiator (no welding just the careful use of a hacksaw). It was really easy and only cost me around $40 for a new controller, $30 for the hose adapter (to plug the sensor into), and $35 for the junkyard fan and some assorted pigtails. Easy mod, and a great place to start getting to know your X.
I'd also like to say thanks to the countless other members that I've taken ideas from for this mod and others. clubx is a fantastic resource.

I will be trying mine out soon.

This is what I purchased.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DER-16759/
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350392569148&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

I'm going to mount the fan in the stock location and utilize the radiator shroud. That, IMHO, is the key to success. Without a shroud you don't get even air flow across the fins. Still haven't nailed down how I'm going to mount it but it won't be directly to the radiator. I'll know more when I pull everything apart.