on the xterra
i want opinions dudes

first off, i do NOT need offroad performance for these tires
the xterra is a mall crawler now
i need tires that handle well on the street in both wet and dry conditions and thats it really(and be able to haul the 4runner on the trailer)
i want them to last long, and mostly, i want cheap
the tires im running now(that are on their last leg) are goodyear wrangler silent armor, and these bad boys run $175 a piece

i was looking at the BGF rugged trails, now for my needs, does anyone tell me if this is gonna be a good tire for me?

Check into the Nitto Terra Grapplers bro... I've read good things about them and they are cheap.

Check out this seller on Ebay..
I saved 200 bucks on my tires here
http://stores.ebay.com/Discount-Tire-Direct-Auctions

I also see a lot of chevys and fords running Michelin LTX's. At least I think that's what they are. They are basically a road tire for heavy duty use like trucks for towing etc.

I'm at work now but if I get a free moment to surf, I'll doublecheck that for ya.

I actually bent both stock step rails crawling over a pile of ice bigger than my X in a mall parking lot so thats why I use BFG all terrains.. 31's aren't too expensive plus there in my opinion the best tread design. But I've also heard good things about the Michelin LTX's as well.

I am getting Nitto Terra Grapplers for my next tires, like said above they are DIRT cheap on ebay!!!

Oh hell I might even give these a try, I have been in contact with them and they told me to expect a minimum of 50,000 out of these tires...
http://treadwright.com/Tires-285_75R16_ATB-P48.aspx
maybe they will be worth a try, plus they are molded to look EXACTLY the same as the BFG AT.. I was told they are not expected to be out until mid June despite what the website says...

I was looking to get the NITTO Grapplers, but could not find them in my size locally.

Instead I got the Kumho road venture A/T. So far I'm really impressed. In dry, sand and dirt they work great. I haven't tried them in snow, mud or rain, so I can't say.

Road manners are great, they handle better than the previous tires (Futura's & bfg longtrail).

Thes are my favorite so far. I've also had (in order of best)

Road Ventures
Scorpions A/T
BFG M/T

and the ones I liked the LEAST
bfg A/T KO

Here's the link to the tires.

http://www.clubxterra.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3489

I second the Nitto Terra Grapplers... I have them and love them. I don't do a tone of offroading but they have excellent onroad and wet traction. I'm not sure about the snow since we don't get much of that here in FL...lol
Another plus they are really quiet on road...

yea i think im gonna go with the terra grapplers
its just hard for me to not get an a/t tire, lol
the price is right though

who has ever ordered tires off ebay?
im a lil wary about biting that bullet

can someone post a pic of these Nitto tires? I have never seen any pics of them other than the stock pics on tire websites.

you can order them from discounttiredirect.com to for the same price, at least you could a few months ago.. I am not sure what exactly the site is, are they discount tire reject tires or something?? becasue they are cheaper than discounttire.com

I have Mastercraft Coursers on my non-wheeling X, and they are really nice. I was quite surprised really.

Here's a link to the Kumho

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?c=1&sw=false&cs=31&pc=33646&rd=15&ar=1050

I might be able to save you about $20-50 on a set of four.

I really really wanted the nitto, but couldn't get them in time. The Kumho were way better than I anticipated, on and off road.

For sure I'll try the Nitto's next time. Oh and stay away from Nitto dune grappler. I hear they're not that good off road.
(http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireProductCategoryDetailBrnd.do?tc=NITVL1)

have you seen the nitto dune grappler though?? they look so BAD ASS!!! they are not designed for off road either, they are for sand, hints the name dune grappler..

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/product/tires/nitvh2.ang.jpg

the terra grappler is a all terrain tire
the dune grappers is a sand tire
the mud grappler is a mud tire

have you seen the nitto dune grappler though?? they look so BAD ASS!!! they are not designed for off road either, they are for sand, hints the name dune grappler..

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/product/tires/nitvh2.ang.jpg

the terra grappler is a all terrain tire
the dune grappers is a sand tire
the mud grappler is a mud tire

I don't like them, the flames in my opinion are tacky, but to each is own. And in the reviews that I read, they said "even though they are called dune graplers, they don not perform well in sand".

i think they are tacky to, I would never buy them I just think it is a very nice unique design...

i think they are tacky to, I would never buy them I just think it is a very nice unique design...

Oh yea, absolutely, maybe for some show vehicle to get attention, but they're just a bit to over the top some something like my truck. And I wanted something good on and off road, didn't have to be great at either, just good in both.

how many miles have you put on you Kumho tires so far?? how are they wearing??

ok, i think ive decided(though ill prob change my mind 20 times before i actually bite the bullet)

im gonna get the BFG AT KO in 265/75/16

how many miles have you put on you Kumho tires so far?? how are they wearing??

So far about 120 miles or so. I driven them in sand & dirt, they work great. They just crawl over soft sand, leaving a perfect imprint, no need to spin the wheels.

On road they work great, I really surprised how well they do, stopping is great, turning great, fwy great, so far surpassed my expectations.

Only drawback is slight road noise, it's very slight, but i personally like my tires noisy.

They were a lot better than I thought for what I needed.

ok, i think ive decided(though ill prob change my mind 20 times before i actually bite the bullet)

im gonna get the BFG AT KO in 265/75/16

those are nice looking tires.. the only thing i dont like is the cost..

you can order them from discounttiredirect.com to for the same price, at least you could a few months ago.. I am not sure what exactly the site is, are they discount tire reject tires or something?? becasue they are cheaper than discounttire.com


I don't think they are reject tires.
I just bought a different set from them...
They were brand new, never driven on.
They ride nice, and look nice and they were free shipping.
They got here in 3 days.
They have the regular tire warranties on them as well.
I saved 200 bucks...the same tires at Discount Tire here in town
were 651, I paid 470

but there has to be some difference between discount tire and discount tire direct. its the same company BUT discount tire direct is about 20% cheaper...

But is it cheaper once you get the tires mounted/balanced?? because discount tire includes all that with your tire purchase... Maybe thats what makes it cheaper???

Cost me $75 to get mount and balance done.....so one would still be saving over $100........

not bad at all...

i wonder what would happen if you printed out the discount tire direct sheet and brought it in to a discount tire store and showed it to them.. they have always been good about price matching... its worth a try, I will try doing that with the Nitto Terra Grapplers if I dont get the generic BFG A/T that I posted about earlier...

http://www.coopertire.com/Flash/index.aspx

check these out, i got then with 20 inch rims. they gook hot. all my frineds love them

http://www.coopertire.com/Flash/index.aspx

check these out, i got then with 20 inch rims. they gook hot. all my frineds love them

let see some pics.. i love seeing blinged out xterras, 4x4 is not for everyone...

tomorrow i go pick up my LT265/75/16 D1 nitto terra grapplers

Hey D... let me know how those Nittos work out. I'm considering a set of them for my DD rims. I've read good stuff about them but I need the trusted info from a fellow x owner to reinforce it.

well i got a higher load rating so mine will ride rougher than yours unless you get the d1 load rating, i believe "normal" is C but i could be wrong
i will sure let yall know

although, as bad as my goodyears are cupping i think even the e1 load rating would ride like a cadillac

i dont wanna stir anyones emotions but i had the nitto tera grappler on my 05 2500hd(325/65r18) and at 17k miles they were WORE out. i wouldnt even save one for a spare. if your lookin for a street tire that has half ass performance off road check out the cooper discoverer h/t (60k mile warranty) or the cooper discoverer atr (50k warranty). i just put the atr's on my girls xterra and it cost just under $550 out the door, and the ht's are cheaper. ive owned numerous cooper tires and have never had any issues. just thought id give my opinion with my experience

2500 eh, what load range did you get?

anyways, i ended up gettin another set of goodyear wrangler silent armors, just a tad bigger than before, i love my silent armors, they are fantastic tires, lasted 10k more than rated without even being rotataed, lol and that with me offroading them, aggressive acceleration, terrible alignment for a month after each wheeling trip
fantastic tire, not cheap however

I have almost 15k on my Terra Grapplers (325/60-18) and they still look new. The Dune Grapplers are junk for traction from what I've been reading others say but I haven't seen them in person yet. Cooper Discoverer are great tires from everything I've read, I have seen noone with anything negative to say about any of the Discoverer lines yet. The Toyo Open Country A/T is the exact same tire as the Terra Grappler and can be found a little cheaper sometimes.

http://www.tiredeals4less.com/TOYO_Open_Country_AT_P265_75R1_P1768.cfm

Here's a pic of mine:

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb89/PopsRacer/Red%20Rock%20Canyon%20-%20Nevada/RedRockCanyon027.jpg

Same here... I've had mine on for about 6000 miles and they look brand spanking new. In fact all of them still have the little hairs on the side walls. The tread looks just as deep as the day I put them on.

maybe my terra grapplers were a fluke or somethin. dont get me wrong those things were sticky as hell. to be an all terranin they really excelled off the highway but at 17000 miles they were truly shot. im glad someone is havin better luck with them than i am. i have decided that i am a cooper guy now. cooper makes a tire to fit nearly any need( except for hardcore off road use) so im gonna keep stickin em on everything i own.

i understand your loyalty to cooper tire man, i feel the same way about goodyear, which also has a tire to suit every need

maybe my terra grapplers were a fluke or somethin. dont get me wrong those things were sticky as hell. to be an all terranin they really excelled off the highway but at 17000 miles they were truly shot. im glad someone is havin better luck with them than i am. i have decided that i am a cooper guy now. cooper makes a tire to fit nearly any need( except for hardcore off road use) so im gonna keep stickin em on everything i own.
They were a fluke and your story is not uncommon. I've read somewhere awhile back that they did have different tread ratings avail and some really soft ones were sold for "mostly Offroad use" but resellers were not paying attention and were selling them as the regular tread so Nitto stopped producing them because of consumer reports like yours. The question in my mind is "why would anyone make an A/T for mostly Offroad use when that's what M/T's are for??" Anyway, it's supposedly "resolved" now but I don't remember where I saw it or know how true it is. :rolleyes:

Which do you guys think is a better tire for an aggressive look, but mostly highway/city driving...I am moslty concerned with tread wear and vibration:

Cooper Discoverer STT

or

Kumho Road Venture MT KL71

Thanks!

I just added this question to the tire section...sorry for the over kill!

Sorry never used any of those treads...


Man, I wish I would have known about this earlier since I have 4 BFG Rugged Trail (that came with my X) Sitt'n in my garage collecting dust...

Best bang for the buck, Cooper Discoverer STT!!! Don't get me wrong, the Kumho is a great tire but the Cooper STT costs quite a bit less, has great OnRoad manners as well as Offroad, and has great treadlife from everything I've read and heard. Everyone who's had them, swears by the Cooper across the forums and my Uncle (who's a farmer) said they're the best tire he's had on his Ram 1500. If you decide to fork out the $$$ for Kumho, you should look at the Toyo Open Country M/T too, they are also awesome.

Well, $$ isn't an issue because I found them both for the same price...actually only a $5 difference.

Best bang for the buck, Cooper Discoverer STT!!! Don't get me wrong, the Kumho is a great tire but the Cooper STT costs quite a bit less, has great OnRoad manners as well as Offroad, and has great treadlife from everything I've read and heard. Everyone who's had them, swears by the Cooper across the forums and my Uncle (who's a farmer) said they're the best tire he's had on his Ram 1500. If you decide to fork out the $$$ for Kumho, you should look at the Toyo Open Country M/T too, they are also awesome.

I agree, they are awesome and I love mine, but I think they are quite more than the Cooper's or Kumho's...if cost is an issue

Well, $$ isn't an issue because I found them both for the same price...actually only a $5 difference.
Sorry, I forgot the Kumhos are priced well. From everything I've seen, the Cooper Discoverer STT is a bit better tire than the Kumho overall, so it's still the best bang for the buck. There are TONs of thread like this over on TitanTalk and if I decide to change to a Mud Tire next round, it'll be the STT because of everyone's feedback about the different tires.

http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20921&stc=1&d=1147659531

They look really cool! I would go with these ones, they have pretty good reviews on them also.... =)

damn......that is one mean looking tire. i've got the toyo open country m/t's as well....i love them, they handle great and are very quiet on the road, and they are awesome off road. they are not all that cheap though, unless you can find a good deal somewhere

-john

Skooby, those Mud Grapplers are usually over $300/ea and are VERY loud on pavement. They are notorious for being some of the loudest tires rolling.

Aww but pops!!! Those are like instant man meat material!! You cant tell me that if you saw a hot chick with a yellow X with THOSE tires on there you wouldnt be like "DAMN" I want me some of that!!! Hahahaha

On topic, Ive never had them or even been in a vehicle that was riding on those, so Ill take your word for it! They are just sexy looking tires, but if they are noisy, then they are not worth it.... =P

I can guarantee that if I didn't have to listen to wifey gripe about the noise, I would've slapped them on in a heartbeat. :D

When I put the Terra Grapplers on, she didn't even know the tires were changed until a few days later when I told her "I already got them". She got out and looked and was shocked at how quiet they are. - lol :D

Oh, and if I saw a hot chick driving a yellow 'X' with those tires, the first thing I'd think "DAMN, her boyfriend knows how to mod his truck." If you're gonna beef up your truck, slap some girly stickers on the back window like "this Chick loves dirt" so it's obviously yours then you'll get guys coming up wanting some of that. :)

HA! Hope you never go through a river in those tires (in the picture) There's enough shine on it to cause another natural disaster, like EXXON.

I can guarantee that if I didn't have to listen to wifey gripe about the noise, I would've slapped them on in a heartbeat. :D

When I put the Terra Grapplers on, she didn't even know the tires were changed until a few days later when I told her "I already got them". She got out and looked and was shocked at how quiet they are. - lol :D

Oh, and if I saw a hot chick driving a yellow 'X' with those tires, the first thing I'd think "DAMN, her boyfriend knows how to mod his truck." If you're gonna beef up your truck, slap some girly stickers on the back window like "this Chick loves dirt" so it's obviously yours then you'll get guys coming up wanting some of that. :)


Haha honestly... I look at the vehicle first and what it is, then the tires.. I dont know why, I just think its like tinting your windows. Makes a HUGE difference on what your vehicle looks like haha. And I have to get some girly stickers on there now! Everyones telling me to get those ones that say "Mud Slut" BUT... I think Ill get the guys that are all about sex that way. Haha. Ill just get one saying "Girls can mod too!" Haha.... :mocking:

HA! Hope you never go through a river in those tires (in the picture) There's enough shine on it to cause another natural disaster, like EXXON.

Okay, that could be another reason why I like them... I like shiny things.... Haha.. they stood out!

LOL!

Shinny things are nice!:helmetandring-big::goldzahn-big:

Haha yes they are! Im like a racoon or weasle or something. haha

HAHA! Or a crow :D

Im Running Procomp Tires I Love Them, What Do U Guys Know About Them????

Im Running Procomp Tires I Love Them, What Do U Guys Know About Them????
Some last long and some have blown chunks of tread early. The ones that last long seem to be decent tires.