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: Impact Driver for Trail/Road Use???


BrushWorks
11-26-2011, 03:48 PM
Has anyone used the Craftsman 17428 Nextec 12-volt Cordless Compact 1/4" Impact Driver?

I have a 1/2" Impact Air Wrench for home use. I'd like one for trail use that's battery not air.

I was considering putting it on my Christmas list, but it looks like it's used with drill/screw driver bits and not sockets.

Is there a socket adapter that can be used with such a tool? This way I can use this for taking off lugs and not resort to my tire iron.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

RacerXXL
11-26-2011, 04:02 PM
I would be shocked if that had enough umph to break lug nuts loose. I carry this (http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=yes&tool=all&item_ID=89708&group_ID=19913&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog) in my truck when wheeling and it's what I use at home whenever I pull my wheels and it works great. If you are looking for something like this plenty of folks are making them but you are going to want 1/2" maybe 3/8" and an 18 volt power source.

BrushWorks
11-26-2011, 04:40 PM
It's rated at 810 lbs. of forward/reverse torque. That wouldn't be enough? I'm 175#, if I jump on a tire iron, could I produce 810# of force?

The one you have is rated for"

# 400 Ft. Lbs. Torque Output
# 620 Ft. Lbs. Bolt Breakaway Torque Output

BrushWorks
11-26-2011, 04:43 PM
you are going to want 1/2" maybe 3/8" and an 18 volt poser source.


Thanks for the tip. I thought 1/4" would be too small.

RacerXXL
11-26-2011, 04:48 PM
It's rated at 810 lbs. of forward/reverse torque. That wouldn't be enough? I'm 175#, if I jump on a tire iron, could I produce 810# of force?

The one you have is rated for"

# 400 Ft. Lbs. Torque Output
# 620 Ft. Lbs. Bolt Breakaway Torque Output

I see that......hey buy it but I doubt it's going to work. Ask yourself why Craftsman makes this if they are getting 810 out of the one you posted? http://www.craftsman.com/craftsman-professional-29297-20-volt-lithium-ion-cordless-1-2-34-impact-wrench/p-00929297000P Plus they sell it for nearly 5 times the price.

That and 810 foot pounds of torque will instantly shear a 1/4 drive....may even shear a 1/2 drive. In order for you or I to generate 810 foot ponds of torque we would have to have the mother of all cheater bars.

RacerXXL
11-26-2011, 04:55 PM
From Craftsman's website.

Powered by a 12 Volt Lithium-Ion Battery for enhanced performance and longer shelf-life; this compact, ergonomic Impact Driver delivers 810"/lbs. of torque in both forward and reverse. It delivers 0-3000 BPM and 0-2200 RPM, providing ample power for heavy-duty applications without as much weight-related user fatigue.

It generates 810 inch pounds of torque...not foot pounds. So that will not work for lug nuts.

BrushWorks
11-26-2011, 04:57 PM
I guess this is my better option:

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_SP100A1798S1705353103P?prdNo=5&blockNo=105&blockType=G105

# 1,500 in-lbs of torque to perform a wide range of fastening applications
# 0-2, 400 rpm/0-2,700 GPM for faster application speed


The Craftsman Nextec seemed to be ONLY for screws and lag bolts. I'd have to look into any socket adapters. But I don't believe that exists.

BrushWorks
11-26-2011, 05:01 PM
From Craftsman's website.



It generates 810 inch pounds of torque...not foot pounds. So that will not work for lug nuts.


Ahhhh... I did not know that. Inch lbs and Ft lbs are different. Got it. My mechanic knowledge is limited on the specs of tools and such.

How bout the one I just posted?

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_SP100A1798S1705353103P?prdNo=5&blockNo=105&blockType=G105

RacerXXL
11-26-2011, 05:06 PM
I guess this is my better option:

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_SP100A1798S1705353103P?prdNo=5&blockNo=105&blockType=G105

# 1,500 in-lbs of torque to perform a wide range of fastening applications
# 0-2, 400 rpm/0-2,700 GPM for faster application speed


The Craftsman Nextec seemed to be ONLY for screws and lag bolts. I'd have to look into any socket adapters. But I don't believe that exists.

That is a quality impact but again it's in inch pounds...which is ok but for lug nuts you need something close to the Snap On that I posted. Once you do the conversion from inch pounds to foot pounds you see that...

The Nextec 810 inch pounds=67.5 foot ponds

The DeWalt 1500 inch pounds=125 foot pounds

BrushWorks
11-26-2011, 05:06 PM
There's this one that offers 200 ft lbs of torque with a 1/2" driver. Unfortunately, I don't have $300-$500 for a hand tool.

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00917339000P?prdNo=24&blockNo=124&blockType=G124

RacerXXL
11-26-2011, 05:07 PM
No worries. A nice online converter for inch pounds to foot pounds. http://www.unitconversion.org/energy/inch-pounds-to-foot-pounds-conversion.html

RacerXXL
11-26-2011, 05:08 PM
There's this one that offers 200 ft lbs of torque with a 1/2" driver. Unfortunately, I don't have $300-$500 for a hand tool.

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00917339000P?prdNo=24&blockNo=124&blockType=G124

I hear ya.....the 1/2" impacts are expensive no matter who makes them.

BrushWorks
11-26-2011, 05:09 PM
That is a quality impact but again it's in inch pounds...which is ok but for lug nuts you need something close to the Snap On that I posted. Once you do the conversion from inch pounds to foot pounds you see that...

The Nextec 810 inch pounds=67.5 foot ponds

The DeWalt 1500 inch pounds=125 foot pounds

Gotcha. Then the 200 ft lb craftsman 1/2" driver I posted would be slightly better.

RacerXXL
11-26-2011, 05:10 PM
Gotcha. Then the 200 ft lb craftsman 1/2" driver I posted would be slightly better.

Much better then the other two.

Xterror04
11-26-2011, 08:24 PM
I have the ridgid 18v impact and it breaks lugs loose pretty easily.. I love this thing great for the price to and good battery life
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&productId=202581838&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&ci_sku=202581838&ci_src=14110944&cm_mmc=shopping-_-googlebase-_-D25X-_-202581838&locStoreNum=732

Steeze
11-26-2011, 08:34 PM
Your most likely not going to find a cordless driver that will break a lug nut... A tire iron is going to be your best bet.

I have had the milwaukee impact driver and the makita impact driver.. currently I have the makita and both are excellent drivers... That's about as good as it gets... without air at least

rjr162
11-27-2011, 02:51 AM
I have a dewalt 1/2" and its does a good job (got the axle nut off on my accord and they are tightened to around 175 ft/lb iirc). Coworker picked up the snap on 1/2" (for too much in my mind) but it works just fine. He uses it at the local drifting "events" when he has time to go to swap wheel/tire setups at the track

Battery level has a huge factor in what they can do though. Even with a mostly charged standard dewalt battery I couldn't get a bolt out, but with a freshly charged it came out fine (and that sucker was tight)

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CISO1969
11-27-2011, 08:24 AM
Gotcha. Then the 200 ft lb craftsman 1/2" driver I posted would be slightly better.


I have the craftsman and it works very well. I got it on sale for a very reasonable price. Check the Craftsman outlet stores--big one in Maryland not far from Aberdeen if that is in your AO...I also would check sales now--the link you posted is now on sale far cheaper then you said it was ($149?)


Also E-bay has plenty of deals on Craftsmans. People scour the outlets and discount sections of Sears for re-sale on the bay - so not every item is a POS or defective, they just beat you out on the deal since they do that for a living :D

CISO

BrushWorks
11-27-2011, 11:15 AM
It seems like the Craftsman is the better deal. I did the Inch Pounds to Foot Pounds Conversion.

The Craftsman already stated 200ft lbs of torque. And the price is $149.99.

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00917339000P?prdNo=24&blockNo=124&blockType=G124&sid=I0084400010000100600&aff=Y


The Rigid is 1,750 In. Lbs, converted to Ft. Lbs. is only 145.83ft lbs. with a price of $169.00.

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&productId=202581838&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&srccode=cii_10043468&cpncode=26-59434654-2&cm_mmc=shopping-_-shopzilla-_-D25-_-202581838&locStoreNum=1213

I think what it comes down too would be battery life. The Rigid is a Lithium battery. The Craftsman is 19v NiCad battery.

But 200ft lbs is stronger for breaking lugs than 145ft lbs.

CISO1969
11-28-2011, 08:02 AM
It seems like the Craftsman is the better deal. I did the Inch Pounds to Foot Pounds Conversion.

The Craftsman already stated 200ft lbs of torque. And the price is $149.99.

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00917339000P?prdNo=24&blockNo=124&blockType=G124&sid=I0084400010000100600&aff=Y


The Rigid is 1,750 In. Lbs, converted to Ft. Lbs. is only 145.83ft lbs. with a price of $169.00.

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&productId=202581838&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&srccode=cii_10043468&cpncode=26-59434654-2&cm_mmc=shopping-_-shopzilla-_-D25-_-202581838&locStoreNum=1213

I think what it comes down too would be battery life. The Rigid is a Lithium battery. The Craftsman is 19v NiCad battery.

But 200ft lbs is stronger for breaking lugs than 145ft lbs.

Mine came with 1 battery and a charger--but I had two others from the Craftsman drills I own--so plenty of juice on call unless I need to use all three :D Plus you should be able to upgrade to the lithium I think--if you want to.

Buddy4679
11-28-2011, 08:28 AM
I use a DeWalt 18v 3/8 impact and it works great for just about everything I throw at it. Has enough to get lugs and other stubborn bolts off, two batteries and a rapid charger so I am theoretically never left stranded. Dont recall the model # off the top of my brain, BUT...18v with a larger drive is the way to go.

BrushWorks
11-28-2011, 10:01 AM
Mine came with 1 battery and a charger--but I had two others from the Craftsman drills I own--so plenty of juice on call unless I need to use all three :D Plus you should be able to upgrade to the lithium I think--if you want to.

So of the two I listed, which do you feel is the better buy?

The 19.2v Craftsman already stated 200ft lbs of torque, 1/2" drive and 2-NiCad batteries. (It says KIT, but I don't see a charger) for: $149.99 (more than likely I would have to upgrade the battery) I have a bunch of Nextec tools, but the Impact driver is a 12v with 67ft lbs. LOL

-OR-

The 18v Rigid which has 145.83ft lbs. and a lithium battery and charger with a price of $169.00. (And also offers FREE parts and service for life. BUT... I would have to buy a Socket Adapter. This is a BIT impact driver, not made for sockets. I watched the demo, and it showed using a socket on a lag bolt with an extension.)

Although the Rigid has better reviews. LOL Decisions, decisions. LOL

bluex
11-28-2011, 02:16 PM
I would be shocked if that had enough umph to break lug nuts loose. I carry this (http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=yes&tool=all&item_ID=89708&group_ID=19913&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog) in my truck when wheeling and it's what I use at home whenever I pull my wheels and it works great. If you are looking for something like this plenty of folks are making them but you are going to want 1/2" maybe 3/8" and an 18 volt power source.

I want that Snap-On impact!! :D

BrushWorks
01-20-2012, 10:26 AM
So I got the 19.2v Craftsman already stated 200ft lbs of torque, 1/2" drive and 2-NiCad batteries. This wrench is a beast!! I haven't used it on my lugs yet, but the description claims that it will crack lugs with ease. You can also upgrade to a lithium battery.

baf6
01-20-2012, 11:39 AM
i picked up an 18V ryobi a few months ago, it was the best tool purchase i've made in a while, haven't found something it couldnt handle on the truck...sometimes it takes a few seconds on the trigger to loosen, bu tit always gets the job done

BrushWorks
01-20-2012, 12:00 PM
I would like to hit the trails with a group one day. I'll have to check to see if I have a 1/2" drive socket to fit my lugs. lol

I would only be able to run a beginner trail though. My vehicle is still stock. I do want to put rock sliders on it along with a hi-lift jack. I HATE the stock scissor jacks that come with the X.

The Path jack was worse. A little mini bottle jack that didn't even have a flat base on it. The corners were slightly turned up.