: starter solenoid stuck
mike2bike 02-26-2008, 11:01 AM I have a 2007 V6 and it will not start. when the ignition key is turned I can hear the solenoid click rapidly but it does not engage the starter. does anyone know where the solenoid is located so that I can jump it? thks
Drake 02-26-2008, 11:11 AM Shouldn't it still be under warranty? I'd call the stealership and absolutely let it hit the fan. There is no reason for an '07 to have that kind of problem.:pullout: :censor:
As far as jumping the solenoid, I can't help you there. Hope you get this straightened out man. That's a bummer.
Aretelio 02-26-2008, 11:50 AM There isn't really a solenoid, all the electrical stuff is routed through the IPDM.
pvfjr 02-26-2008, 01:11 PM I have a 2007 V6 and it will not start. when the ignition key is turned I can hear the solenoid click rapidly but it does not engage the starter. does anyone know where the solenoid is located so that I can jump it? thks
Usually when a solenoid oscillates like that, it's due to a low battery. You've got enough voltage to make it click over, then it connects the battery to a load (the starter), which causes a voltage drop, which causes the solenoid to disengage, which disconnects it from the load, which allows the voltage to go back up, which reengages the solenoid.....and round and round you go. Try giving your battery a jump. It might be just barely too low to start your rig, but might operate everything else.
pvfjr 02-26-2008, 01:14 PM There isn't really a solenoid, all the electrical stuff is routed through the IPDM. The manual I have shows a "starter relay" built into the IPDM. That sends the voltage to the starter motor/solenoid, which are still piggy-backed onto each other. At least, that is, in my 05-06 manual.
mike2bike 02-26-2008, 03:00 PM Thanks for the replies. the car is about 1 year and 1 month old. I was trying to avoid having it towed to the dealer. I'll try jump starting through the battery incase it's the low voltage. Thanks guys for the help.
Drake 02-26-2008, 04:01 PM No problem. I hate we couldn't offer any immediate help.
And btw... Welcome to Club X! :wink-big:
Aretelio 02-26-2008, 05:36 PM The manual I have shows a "starter relay" built into the IPDM. That sends the voltage to the starter motor/solenoid, which are still piggy-backed onto each other. At least, that is, in my 05-06 manual.
Right, but he was asking where the solenoid was so he could 'jump' it, like on old Fords. On these newer vehicles with Controller Area Network systems and Intelligent Power Distribution Modules, jumping a solenoid will most likely not work and even more likely ruin something if it were tried.
Furthermore, ASIST does not describe or show a standard relay setup inside the IPDM.
pvfjr 02-26-2008, 06:29 PM I understand that you didn't want to encourage solenoid jumping. I wasn't either. He probably could if he wanted to, but it would be pretty impossible to get at. It wouldn't be nearly as easy to jump as it would on the old Fords that had the remote mount solenoids on the inner fender. But to say that there ISN'T a solenoid isn't accurate, that's all I was trying to clear up. I also wouldn't say that jumping it would ruin anything. The solenoid itself is one of the few things in cars that really haven't changed much. They're no more complicated than they used to be. Only difference is the energizing circuit that engages the solenoid. With all the relays, interlocks, computer disabling circuits, etc that it goes through, there's a lot of things that can go wrong.
Here's what I'm showing as far as diagrams go, for whatever that's worth. A very stripped down representation of the IPDM, probably only showing the portion that is used in this circuit.
k1w1t1m 02-27-2008, 10:00 AM More than likely it's something simple like a low battery or bad connections. Check the battery terminals.
pvfjr 02-27-2008, 01:18 PM More than likely it's something simple like a low battery or bad connections. Check the battery terminals.
I bet it was. If he hadn't been able to jump start, he probably would've been back on here asking questions. No news is good news, I hope.
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