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nismofreak1983
02-21-2008, 11:06 PM
i own an 02 sexterra 4x4...i want to lift if for next to nothing.
my friend said to tighten the torsion bars and do an axle over
leaf.can it be done or is there a better way?
i dont wanna spend much.
hittin the trails in a little under 48 hours.
im new at this so please send me some help asap.

iExploreX
02-21-2008, 11:28 PM
The torsion bar crank is a normal mod and is part of the PML(poor mans lift).

It consists of the tbar crank and/or AAL(add-a-leaf)/longer shackles.

The t-bar crank can be done in minutes, but you need an alignment afterwards(even if you have to do it yourself for your trip).

The AAL and shackles have to be ordered. i recommend AC(4x4parts.com). I don't work for them .nor have any friends in the company. Ive just had great service from them in the past.

As far as the leaf over, IDK. Ive seen it done, but IIRC its a bit of a process. I could be wrong on that.

You might just want to do the tbars for now and then order the rest of the PML for your next outting.

Good Luck and Welcome Home :)

Drake
02-21-2008, 11:33 PM
You can't do an axle-over-leaf lift on an xterra.

Crank your t-bars and buy lift shackles for the rear from AC. They run about $70 shipping and all. But there is no way that you are going to be able to lift it properly before then. Because after you lift it, you SHOULD get an alignment done afterwards.

You don't have to have a lift to wheel it. Trust me. You will be highly surprised at what you can do bonestock. Just drop your steprails if you have them, ditch the mudflaps and scrap your rear sway-bar and you'll be good to go.

iExploreX
02-21-2008, 11:38 PM
IDK Drake, I could have sworn someone on another site had an AOL. Id have to find the pics to be sure.

I do know for sure that it was a custom leaf pack.

EDIT - I was wrong. I found the guy I was thinking of. It wasn't a AOL, just a ridiculous custom leaf pack :mocking:

soccerbrace
02-22-2008, 05:30 AM
Axle over leaf......we have our axle over our leafs already dudes!

What you are thinking is a SOA, spring over axle, and yes, that is a lot of work, and not worth it IMO. I have seen it done numerous times.

A PML is the way to go, but you gotta do it all at once.

Drake
02-22-2008, 09:38 AM
:aufkopfhauen-big: :duh: I think we just had a dyslexic moment.

nismofreak1983
02-22-2008, 09:43 AM
soso what can I do for cheap lift.2grand for a lift kit is way out of my price rangeAxle over leaf......we have our axle over our leafs already dudes!

What you are thinking is a SOA, spring over axle, and yes, that is a lot of work, and not worth it IMO. I have seen it done numerous times.

A PML is the way to go, but you gotta do it all at once.

soccerbrace
02-22-2008, 09:48 AM
What about $60?

That will give you 1.5" lift. Sound good?

Oh and you can get a 3" lift for WAYYYYYY less than 2K

Drake
02-22-2008, 09:50 AM
A PML (Poor Man's Lift) will run you about $120 total. All you have to have is a set of lift shackles and do a t-bar crank. The shackles will run you around $75 shipping and all and then you will have to get an alignment afterwards so that's another $40 to $50.

It's the cheapest easiest lift you can do. It will give you about 1.5" of lift and you can do it in just 2 hours at most by yourself (although it's good to have a friend/gopher to help).

Then there is a 2" BL (body lift). James (Soccerbrace) has a great write up on making one yourself for about $65.

But I wouldn't sweat the lift for one trip. Neither of these lifts will give you much benefit without the addition of new more aggressive tread. Give your X some credit and go out and rip it up stock. That will wow your friends even more that you are running trails without mods.

soccerbrace
02-22-2008, 09:57 AM
A PML (Poor Man's Lift) will run you about $120 total. All you have to have is a set of lift shackles and do a t-bar crank. The shackles will run you around $75 shipping and all and then you will have to get an alignment afterwards so that's another $40 to $50.

If you have a good eye Nismo, yo can go without the alignment. In fact, I have heard of so much dissatisfaction that I recommend just not getting one.

But I wouldn't sweat the lift for one trip. Neither of these lifts will give you much benefit without the addition of new more aggressive tread. Give your X some credit and go out and rip it up stock. That will wow your friends even more that you are running trails without mods.

x2. Your tires are a big factor, perhaps the biggest factor, when wheeling. You will be pleasantly surprised by the X's ability.

regardless, a PML is a great start

json3904
02-22-2008, 04:41 PM
i took my X wheeling with only a PML and had alot of fun.... and mine is a 2wd.... LOL

Drake
02-22-2008, 05:16 PM
My first trip to Coal Creek was bonestock and this past trip, I only had a PML. After tomorrow, my next trip will be with a PML, 2" BL, IA brace and hopefully 33" tars (tires for those not from the south :mocking: ).

iExploreX
02-22-2008, 05:46 PM
^its kinda sad that I new exactly what "tars" are even before I continued reading, haha.

json3904
02-22-2008, 06:05 PM
same here... lol i guess it cause we are from the south.... LOL

nismofreak1983
02-24-2008, 02:27 PM
where can I get a cheap lift at.drop some urlsWhat about $60?

That will give you 1.5" lift. Sound good?

Oh and you can get a 3" lift for WAYYYYYY less than 2K

soccerbrace
02-24-2008, 04:59 PM
???????

You can get shackles from AC for $65. Keep an eye on the buy and sell sections

Ricer-X
02-24-2008, 05:09 PM
www.4x4parts.com

pvfjr
02-24-2008, 08:43 PM
If you were looking to get 35's to 38's on that beast, spring over axle would be a necessity. I've done them on S10's. You just have to chop the spring perches off and weld new ones on top of the axle, at the correct spacing. You have to get the angle of them right too, so your pinion angle doesn't get messed up. I allows you to flip your u-bolts over as well, leaving them less vulnerable to damage. Then you might have to cut and rotate your shock mounts, or just build new ones. Then there's the typical stuff, brake lines, shock lengths, etc.

Personally, if you want some flex, I'd do a longer shackle first, which would give you a couple inches or so depending on what you choose. The SOA would add 5-6" of lift on top of whatever else you do. You'd pretty much have to do a SAS in the front in order to match it, so the SOA probably isn't a good idea for you. Unless you want the rear end way up in the air. SOA is a very effective, cheap, and easy way to lift, IF you need that much height. I did one on an S10, for example, that needed 12" of lift to clear the 36's we put on it.

brandonpriceco
03-14-2008, 06:11 PM
When adding the new shackles do you have to replace the shocks? (I know I should because the stock ones are not all taht great but I'm on a really tight budget right now) or can it wait? If it can wait is there anything I would risk by wheeling with the stock shocks? Thanks

json3904
03-14-2008, 08:53 PM
you can do the pml with stock shocks.. LOL

pvfjr
03-14-2008, 10:09 PM
When adding the new shackles do you have to replace the shocks? (I know I should because the stock ones are not all taht great but I'm on a really tight budget right now) or can it wait? If it can wait is there anything I would risk by wheeling with the stock shocks? Thanks
You risk shortening the life of the shocks that you'll eventually replace anyway. And you might limit your droop a bit while flexing it out. No biggie really.

json3904
03-14-2008, 10:37 PM
You risk shortening the life of the shocks that you'll eventually replace anyway. And you might limit your droop a bit while flexing it out. No biggie really.

i ran a pml for a while before i added my sl.... i never bottomed out my shocks you will be alright.....

pvfjr
03-14-2008, 11:46 PM
I wouldn't expect you to bottom out your shocks with a PML, though topping them out could be a concern....:mocking:

json3904
03-14-2008, 11:49 PM
his main ? was if he added the shackles could he run stock shocks.... and yes he can with no problem...
:bubblegum-big:

pvfjr
03-15-2008, 11:53 AM
Yes, we agree there no problem. I was just trying to be annoying. Did it work?:)

brandonpriceco
03-15-2008, 02:40 PM
Thanks fellas. I might have to do that for a little while. I deffinately need to add a little lift to it. I took it out today and scratched the bottom a little on some rocks, I went slow though. 787Then I found a little NC mud. 788Needless to say I was happy with my bonsestock X. The mod bug has hit me hard though. Thanks again everyone for your help.

json3904
03-15-2008, 04:25 PM
nice pics....if you have anymore ?'s on the pml just let us know and we can help you out....

jman2000
04-05-2008, 09:11 PM
I think I will do a PML.