: 5" grouping at 1000 yds.
Drake 03-10-2011, 03:52 PM Oh and did I mention he is an 84 year old WWII vet?
My hat definitely goes off to this man both for his service and what he can STILL do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQRpAxGVg4M
drbandkgb 03-10-2011, 04:03 PM Great story
Lucky13 03-10-2011, 04:06 PM wow..
Roadwarrior 03-10-2011, 04:29 PM I like how the new age snipers are saying what he can do is Impossible. What he can do, what he has done, is simply incredible.
Drake 03-11-2011, 05:52 AM It says a lot for natural skill that is for sure. It is like the proverbial "riding a bicycle" for him. That first shot with the Springfield seemed to knock the dust off of all of that knowledge and skill he may not have used since he came home from WWII. "Walking" a shot up to a 5" grouping (on a head shot nonetheless) at over 1/2 mile is just incredible.
Next time you're driving, watch your odometer and see just how far you drive for roughly 0.6 of a mile to get an idea of what he is doing. Unreal.
rjr162 03-11-2011, 06:55 AM Drake: no kidding. I've often thought about that shots some of the snipers have pulled off.. simply crazy
Two Canadian snipers of the same Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry (PPCLI) regiment sniper team made at the time the longest recorded sniper kills in history with this weapon in Afghanistan, during Operation Anaconda, in the Shah-i-Kot Valley. On a March afternoon in 2002, Master Corporal Arron Perry killed an enemy combatant from 2,310 meters (2,526 yd/1.435 miles) and Corporal Rob Furlong killed an enemy combatant from 2,430 meters (2,657 yd/1.509 miles) with 750 grain Hornady A-MAX very-low-drag bullets. These were the longest recorded kills by snipers in combat, surpassing the mark of 2,286 meters (2,500 yd/1.420 miles) set by U.S. Marine Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock during the Vietnam War
More or less a mile and a half.. and the one was during the Vietnam war.
But the longest yet:
The longest range recorded for a sniper kill currently stands at 2,475 m (2,707 yd) and was achieved by CoH Craig Harrison, a sniper from the Household Cavalry of the British Army. It was accomplished in an engagement in November 2009 in which two stationary Taliban machine gunners were killed south of Musa Qala in Helmand Province in Afghanistan with two consecutive shots by CoH Harrison using an Accuracy International L115A3 Long Range Rifle chambered in .338 Lapua Magnum.
And the last line of this just amazes me that the shot made it:
By contrast, much of the U.S./Coalition urban sniping in support of operations in Iraq is at much shorter ranges, although in one notable incident on April 3, 2003, Corporals Matt and Sam Hughes, a two-man sniper team of the Royal Marines, armed with L96 sniper rifles each killed targets at a range of about 860 metres (941 yd) with shots that, due to strong wind, had to be fired “exactly 17 meters (56 ft) to the left of the target for the bullet to bend in the wind.”
Drake 03-11-2011, 07:09 AM I remember reading about that Brit's shot when they were doing a special on the Lapua Magnum. Awesome indeed.
I want a .338!
http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/ai_awsm.jpg
But I wouldn't mind a Beowulf either.
http://images.snapfish.com/34374%3C2323232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E2336%3D4%3B7%3D575%3 DXROQDF%3E2323834689593ot1lsi
Nothing like a full-auto .50 cal assault rifle. :)
Back on point though, Gundy is truly a rare breed. I bet that sniper team just sat in awe after he did that.
RATTFINK 03-11-2011, 07:30 AM WOW!!! at the first post...
*DROOL* for the .338 & .50 cal :D
Cyclemut 03-11-2011, 08:53 AM Holy crap! And I'm happy with a 1" group at 100 yards with the ol' 30-30 brush gun of mine.
Hat's off to that soldier. It's amazing to me that the skill and knowledge of the men that have served is not being used and, in fact, is being mostly ignored by today's youth. If I were in charge of that sniper school, he'd have a job until he didn't want it any more. I would pay him a General's salary to pass that knowledge on to the next generations to come.
Imagine, one day, not having shot that weapon before, not knowing the characteristics of the projectiles, having to trust a spotter that you've never worked with before and getting a first, second and third head shot within 5" of each other?! Simply un-thinkable in my mind. And to have his spotter say it's impossible tells me that this soldier has much more to offer than the guys that are there.
Anyone else see the shots on that target from the other sniper? There were all main mass, fairly spread apart shots. Then you see the head (like there would have been a head left after the first shot!) where Gundy hit it. OMFG! Maybe they're just a bit over-dependent on technology?
Drake 03-11-2011, 09:57 AM That is probably the one thing that impressed me more than anything else. The fact he was working with a spotter he just met for the first time, much less ever worked with. Was able to listen and adjust according to his spotter, then proceed to put 3 between the eyes and chin.
While I would agree 100% to put him on the payroll, that is just skill that can't be taught. I wonder what his kill count was in WWII.
rjr162 03-11-2011, 10:15 AM You have to remember too, a lot of those boys back then were "red necks" and grew up hunting and shooting, that's what made a lot of them already good shots. It's amazing how many of them were already able to hit moving targets at range because of the hunting/pest control on the farm skills they already carried over when they entered service. Hats off to to them all. While I may not have served, I've always respected what my grandfather accomplished and always enjoy listening to the stories he tells and the pictures he has from way back when. He gave me his old bomber jacket thinking I could wear it (I'd never wear it, I'd end up ruining it) plus it was a little small. He enlisted at 16 if I remember correctly, learned to fly on Bi-Planes, piloted a B-17 over Europe and retired as a Colonel working in the Pentagon. Makes me proud (but also a bit sad I didn't follow in his foot steps)
fuzzytek 10-01-2011, 12:23 AM That is definately good shooting. I know a couple of people capable of that, but they practice a couple days or more a week, all year long. To be able to do that with a week training behind a rifle completely different from anything he's shot before is truly amazing. God bless him.
tikkad 12-01-2011, 09:49 AM While I would agree 100% to put him on the payroll, that is just skill that can't be taught. I wonder what his kill count was in WWII.
No disrespect but as someone who shoot ELR (extreme long range) and F-class regularly i would have to disagree with the above statement. the only skill that can be natural is holding the gun still. but when i shoot a grand there is no skill in the world that could get you on target besides what is taught and learned. It is all physics and technique.
That is if someone is doing it by themselves of course. If given a good rifle and good data all it comes down to then is just following orders and putting the crosshairs on the target and pulling the trigger
tikkad 12-01-2011, 10:19 AM Drake: Quote:
By contrast, much of the U.S./Coalition urban sniping in support of operations in Iraq is at much shorter ranges, although in one notable incident on April 3, 2003, Corporals Matt and Sam Hughes, a two-man sniper team of the Royal Marines, armed with L96 sniper rifles each killed targets at a range of about 860 metres (941 yd) with shots that, due to strong wind, had to be fired “exactly 17 meters (56 ft) to the left of the target for the bullet to bend in the wind.”
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Drake; I see that u were quoting this but i would be curious where this was quoted from. With that weapon at 941 yards the wind speed for the 17 meter- 56 feet- 672 inches would have to be AN INCREDIBLE 131 MPH FULL VALUE WIND
RacerXXL 12-01-2011, 12:26 PM Drake; I see that u were quoting this but i would be curious where this was quoted from. With that weapon at 941 yards the wind speed for the 17 meter- 56 feet- 672 inches would have to be AN INCREDIBLE 131 MPH FULL VALUE WIND
It's been discussed repeatedly on the gun boards and the consensus was that the reporter made a mistake and in this day and age it was just cut and pasted all over the net.
The most plausible answer I have seen is that the corrections were related to the reporter in how many clicks he dialed on the scope and the reporter transposed it to feet.
silverbullet 12-02-2011, 06:16 PM speaking of .338 lapua, a guy at work got this a few weeks ago. AMAZING!!!
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l109/silvx00/7abcfc2f.jpg
chesh75 12-02-2011, 10:25 PM nice to see this on here based on a discussion with a bit of an exaggerator at work a few days ago claiming a friend hitting a dime sized target from 1200 yards consistently. Didn't say anything to him but a little "hmm, crazy" and a (Bull sh**) in my head. I'm very new to shooting and hunting and I'm pretty happy hitting 3" groupings at 200 yrds for now. Looking to push further next summer.
fuzzytek 12-03-2011, 12:33 AM Just a quick note on the the L96. A majority of issued rifles are in .308. However that model is also fielded in both 300 win mag and .338 Lapua. The L115 is a replacement .338. Similarly the U.S. army's M24 uses a remington long action and is fielded in both .308 and .300 win mag.
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