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: LOCKED UP!? Slight Emergency!!!


AliFromCO
02-06-2011, 11:04 AM
Alright, first of all, I apologize in advance for my frantic post.

Parked my XTerra with the wheels straight last night. Went to start it this morning and my ignition was locked. Tried the whole turning the wheel thing and then my ***kin' steering wheel locked up. Steering is turned slightly to the right but my tires are still straight.

Steering, Ignition, Shifter, Break Pedal are all locked in place. I'm a girl and I had a big dude try moving my steering wheel and he gave up...

I know the whole "jiggle the wheel while turning the key" but this is more than a jam.

I'd call a mechanic but it's Sunday and nothing's open in the mountains on Sunday.

I'm a pro skier and I have to drive from Breckenridge to Salt Lake in like TWO DAYS for a huge competition I cannot miss!!!!

Closest Nissan dealer is in Denver like an hour and a half away.

Any suggestions?!?!?!?

Noxious007
02-06-2011, 11:09 AM
My guess is that it is the locking mechanism in the ignition. Try spraying a little wd-40 or silicone spray in to the ignition and slide the key in and out several times. If you can, go have another key made or try using the spare if you have it.

Cyclemut
02-06-2011, 11:10 AM
Do you have a different key that you can try? Perhaps the valet key (red handled one) or another factory unit?

If it comes down to it, I could tell you (on the phone, not the webby) how to disable your lock.

I'm in Denver and I know a couple of people up in the hills that I could put a shout out to, if need be. It's also Super Bowl Sunday.

TJTJ
02-06-2011, 11:17 AM
Alright, first of all, I apologize in advance for my frantic post.

Parked my XTerra with the wheels straight last night. Went to start it this morning and my ignition was locked. Tried the whole turning the wheel thing and then my ***kin' steering wheel locked up. Steering is turned slightly to the right but my tires are still straight.

Steering, Ignition, Shifter, Break Pedal are all locked in place. I'm a girl and I had a big dude try moving my steering wheel and he gave up...

I know the whole "jiggle the wheel while turning the key" but this is more than a jam.

I'd call a mechanic but it's Sunday and nothing's open in the mountains on Sunday.

I'm a pro skier and I have to drive from Breckenridge to Salt Lake in like TWO DAYS for a huge competition I cannot miss!!!!

Closest Nissan dealer is in Denver like an hour and a half away.

Any suggestions?!?!?!?

Emergency Plan - Rent a car to get where you have to go.

Plan A - If turning it to the right locked it, its under tension with the ratcheting to the right...so it has to go MORE to the right to be able to turn the key (Releasing the tension on the teeth, etc...)

If no local humans seem strong enough to turn it MORE to the right (Or, they were trying to tun it back to the left...), you can put a rope on the steering wheel, out the window, or a long pole/pry bar/etc....through the steering wheel, to leverage it to the right more, enough to release the tension and let you turn the key (While its pulled to the right...).

Essentially, you need a force multiplier if you can't just turn the wheel by hand.

Sometimes, if you jack up the front end, so the tires are unweighted, this also relieves some tension in the system, but that depends on how you parked, etc. (Chock rear tires first, etc too)

:wink-big:

AliFromCO
02-06-2011, 11:26 AM
Thanks for all the quick reply's!

I am originally from Wisconsin and would never take anyone away from the game today, ha! I'm more worried about being able to get to Utah this week.

I was able to get my shifter unlocked. Would putting my car in to neutral and having a bit of man power push it forwards or backwards help at all?

It did lock to the right and definitely won't go back left. As soon as my boyfriend gets home from work I'll have him give it a go at turning it more right. (I'd like to think I'm pretty strong for a chick but there's no way in hell I can move that thing.)

AliFromCO
02-06-2011, 11:27 AM
Oh, by the way, I do have another key... at my house. (Stuck at my bf's house and he's at work.) Would that really help though? It seems like everything is locked up and not just the ignition...

Thanks so much guys!!!

AliFromCO
02-06-2011, 11:38 AM
Just tried WD-40 with no such luck. =[

TJTJ
02-06-2011, 11:44 AM
If the wheel won't move, but the key goes in/out...its normal for the collar to not let the key turn to start...that's the purpose of the locking steering wheel.

If you feel athletic, put your back against the roof, and push an arm of the wheel down with your foot...you might have more leverage that way, as it sounds like you could not find an object such as I suggested to add leverage.

AliFromCO
02-06-2011, 11:54 AM
If the wheel won't move, but the key goes in/out...its normal for the collar to not let the key turn to start...that's the purpose of the locking steering wheel.

If you feel athletic, put your back against the roof, and push an arm of the wheel down with your foot...you might have more leverage that way, as it sounds like you could not find an object such as I suggested to add leverage.

Hmmmm I could try that... Don't I have to be turning the key at the same time though?? And how will I know when the wheel has turned enough??

Cyclemut
02-06-2011, 11:57 AM
Wait, it's an '06?

Explain a bit more what's happening? Will the key turn and start the vehicle at all or will it just go in and out, not turning?

I'm assuming the latter, that the key won't turn at all. So like TJ said, you're going to have to put your back into it. Perhaps sitting in the passenger's seat and yank on the wheel. But you need to turn the wheel vs. yank the entire column sideways, to yank on the top of the wheel to the right. If you can get the wheel to move a hair, that's all you need.

Cyclemut
02-06-2011, 12:03 PM
And if you can get the wheel to turn a bit, it won't stay there, so you then know that by turning it like that you will have to turn the key at the same time the next time. No use in trying to turn the wheel and the key on the first try, you don't know if you're putting enough effort in getting the wheel turned.

Turn the wheel first, make sure you can turn it, then try both at the same time. ;)

I'm sure you can. My wife could do it in my '05 Frontier (same ignition as yours) and she's kinda girly. Not a pro-skier like yourself. You'll get it. Then you can tell your boyfriend that he owes you dinner for fixing your rig yourself!

AliFromCO
02-06-2011, 12:07 PM
Wait, it's an '06?

Explain a bit more what's happening? Will the key turn and start the vehicle at all or will it just go in and out, not turning?

I'm assuming the latter, that the key won't turn at all. So like TJ said, you're going to have to put your back into it. Perhaps sitting in the passenger's seat and yank on the wheel. But you need to turn the wheel vs. yank the entire column sideways, to yank on the top of the wheel to the right. If you can get the wheel to move a hair, that's all you need.



I GOT IT!!!!!!! (3 1/2 hours of yanking)

Yeah, it's an '06... The key would go in and out but it would not turn at all.

Does anyone know why this happened???? I parked with my wheels straight... I really don't want this to happen again somewhere inconvenient.

kbell2433
02-06-2011, 12:16 PM
Way to go. Now you can make it on your trip. And you can tease the dude that you had try to do it and fail . LOL

Cyclemut
02-06-2011, 12:21 PM
Depends on where you parked. If the area that you parked on is tilted a bit, you're parked against a curb, against a chunk of ice (we kind of experienced it yesterday in Conifer, outside of Evergreen with the ice and snow) or the tires could have been frozen to the ground if you parked in slush, etc.

There's several reasons it could have happened, but typically, it's not something that you will or should continue to experience.

Cyclemut
02-06-2011, 12:23 PM
Now let's talk about the serious stuff.

Can you put a ClubX sticker on your helmet for everyone to see the next time you're on ESPN or something? :D

AliFromCO
02-06-2011, 12:28 PM
Way to go. Now you can make it on your trip. And you can tease the dude that you had try to do it and fail . LOL

RIGHT?!?! Thanks for all the help guys!!!

After he tried and couldn't get it I think I stopped putting my full effort into trying to turn it... I guess I thought if he couldn't there was no way in hell I could. After a little persuasion from yourselves I decided to give it another go.

Thank God I stretch a lot cuz that was one weird ass position I put myself into to get that kind of leverage (I'm not a very big kid). LOL!!!!! :hilarious:

AliFromCO
02-06-2011, 12:46 PM
Now let's talk about the serious stuff.

Can you put a ClubX sticker on your helmet for everyone to see the next time you're on ESPN or something? :D



LOL Well...

One, I can't actually legally advertise for companies/organizations that I don't have a contract with on television. Pretty crazy huh? Secondly, I'd be down for ClubXterra... but ClubX would just look like I'm sponsored by some crazy porn site. LOL

xtacular
02-06-2011, 12:55 PM
LOL Well...

ClubX would just look like I'm sponsored by some crazy porn site. LOL

Ha so true! Good luck at your competition.

Cyclemut
02-06-2011, 12:56 PM
Oh, we're not an organization. One thing we haven't been accused of is being organized! :D

That's cool. We're just glad you felt confident enough to come on here, ask for help, do what we suggested and actually fix your own rig yourself. That's pretty impressive in and of itself.

Glad to have you on board! Now go kick some ass on the slopes!

Lucky13
02-06-2011, 02:03 PM
press the brake - turn the wheel to the right - jiggle key while turning it (turning wheel and key)

the other key may work better because its the key you dont normally use (not as worn)

hopefully the guy you had help you didnt break it trying to force it in the wrong direction. difficult to do but possible.

Cyclemut
02-06-2011, 02:15 PM
She got her fixerd Lucky. I'm bettin' she's either packed and hitting some Freshy or packin' and then gonna hit some freshy. Been snowing pretty good up around here lately.

It's the reason I'm looking at houses in the hills now, instead of the downtown area. Gonna get me a sled-mobile too! Maybe grow a beard. But that would take me a year, I don't know if I could do that. I wonder if they make miracle grow in a pill. Maybe me and a couple of CE's could come up with that, make you grow hair and take the place of Viagra at the same time.

Lucky13
02-06-2011, 02:41 PM
oops... quick posted and didnt notice there was a page 2.. daa

if they do id buy some of those pills.. :D

TJTJ
02-06-2011, 03:08 PM
I figured if she got her foot on it, she'd have the leg strength to push the wheel arm enough to take the tension off the teeth...and, the perspicacity to then realize, if she had not already realized it by that point, that the only time she'd be ABLE to turn the key is when the tension was off the teeth....IE: While turning the wheel hard enough to the right.

People were too keyed on the KEY being the pronlem...it was a red herring on this one. That's why I was emphasizing the tension needing to be relieved TO turn the key.

If this happens to anyone else...remember, if the WHEEL locks, so you can't turn the key....its not the key, its the wheel lock.



:wink-big:

Snow Chaser
02-06-2011, 03:33 PM
Who do you ride for?

Itsme
02-06-2011, 06:07 PM
Sometimes ya just gotta tell your X who boss really is!
We are all glad you dominated over it! LOL

sllt1776
02-06-2011, 06:19 PM
Thank God I stretch a lot cuz that was one weird ass position I put myself into to get that kind of leverage (I'm not a very big kid). LOL!!!!! :hilarious:

Any chance you can show us a picture of the position you needed to get in? It could be helpful to assist others in the future. :)

Lucky13
02-06-2011, 06:25 PM
Any chance you can show us a picture of the position you needed to get in? It could be helpful to assist others in the future. :)

LOLZ...
yes plz.. :D :camera:

AliFromCO
02-07-2011, 02:52 PM
Any chance you can show us a picture of the position you needed to get in? It could be helpful to assist others in the future. :)

LOL!! I knew that was coming! Set myself up for it didn't I?


To Cyclemut: You're right on! Hahaha! As soon as I got it running I was out the door to the mountain. The snow has been a blessing and a curse. I love the powder and it's so fun to ride... but I haven't had nearly enough practice in the pipe because of it. It also means the off-roading season will start REALLY late and I won't get a chance to hit the trails before I head to Mt.Hood for the summer.

To Snow Chaser: I currently ride for Woodward at Copper, Mountain Wave (local shop), Skullcandy, and trying very hard to hop on with Armada (my dream sponsor)! I'm still really new to everything, so I'm happy with what I can get... for now!

Snow Chaser
02-07-2011, 02:54 PM
Nice, good luck with the sponsorship.

Lucky13
02-07-2011, 05:14 PM
nice, good luck with the sponsorship.

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