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json3904
01-08-2008, 03:02 PM
i found this over on the sentra forum i am on and they have a couple of people that have bught them now if you scroll down you see they also sell the 9004 which is what the 1st gen X uses, i might get a set for the x in the next few weeks.... and with a 14 month waranty how can you go wrong..... lol http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HID-KIT-Xenon-Nissan-350Z-300Z-Altima-Titan-H1-H3-H7-H9_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ36476QQihZ009QQitemZ 190186851824QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW#ebayphotohosti ng

they also have the bulb for the fog lights h3 i just might buy 4 kits 2 for the sentra and 2 for the X.... my girl said i dont need to get new lights i blind everyone already but i really want hids so oh well......lol i currently have silverstar ultras in her now......

Ricer-X
01-08-2008, 03:45 PM
DUDE
unless its different from my truck to yours, we run 9007

json3904
01-09-2008, 12:24 AM
see thats what i had on the post to begin with but i looked it up on a web site and it said 9004... either way you can even get the hids fot the fog lights.... lol

drumboy
01-09-2008, 11:41 AM
Not to rain on anybody's parade over here, but unless you have projectors in your headlights already, i would not recommend getting an HID kit. If you use standard halogen housing it will spread the light everywhere, you will blind any oncoming traffic, and you will not get the effect you are possibly hoping for...Plus, it is illegal and you will very likely get pulled over :(

Just my two cents...

json3904
01-09-2008, 11:55 AM
the 2000, 2001 dosent have projecors but i think 02 - 04 dose..... not that i dont care about blinding anyone but even witht the ones i have now blind everyone......

Ricer-X
01-09-2008, 11:58 AM
taken from wikipedia


HID light sources (xenon and bi-xenon)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/Xenon_light.JPG/200px-Xenon_light.JPG (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Xenon_light.JPG) http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Xenon_light.JPG)
Xenon projector low beam headlamp illuminated on a Saab 9-5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_9-5).


HID stands for high-intensity discharge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-intensity_discharge), the technical term for the electric arc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_arc) that produces the light. Automotive HID lamps are commonly called 'xenon headlamps', although they are actually metal halide lamps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_halide_lamp) that contain xenon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenon) gas. The xenon gas allows the lamps to produce minimally adequate amounts of light immediately upon startup and speed the warmup time. If argon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argon) were used instead, as is commonly done in street and other stationary metal halide lamp applications, it would take several minutes for the lamps to reach their full output. HID headlamps use a small, purpose-designed burner which produces more light than ordinary tungsten (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incandescent_light_bulb) and tungsten-halogen bulbs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incandescent_light_bulb#The_halogen_lamp). The light from HID headlamps has a distinct bluish tint when compared with tungsten-filament headlamps. The high intensity of the arc comes from metallic salts that are vapourised within the arc chamber.
HID headlamp bulbs produce between 2,800 and 3,500 lumens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumen) from between 35 and 38 watts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watt) of electrical power, while halogen filament headlamp bulbs produce between 700 and 2,100 lumens from between 40 and 72 watts at 12.8 V [8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlamp#_note-3)[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlamp#_note-4)[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlamp#_note-5). Because of the increased amounts of light available from HID bulbs, HID headlamps producing a given beam pattern can be made smaller than halogen headlamps producing a comparable beam pattern. Alternatively, the larger size can be retained, in which case the xenon headlamp can produce a more robust beam pattern.
HID headlamp bulbs do not run on low-voltage DC current, so they require a ballast (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballast_%28electrical%29) with either an internal or external ignitor. The ballast controls the current to the bulb. When the headlamps are switched on, the ignitor provides rapidly pulsed current at several thousand volts to initiate the arc between the electrodes within the bulb. Once the arc is started, its heat begins to vapourise the metallic salts within the arc chamber, and the ballast gradually transitions from startup operation to arc-maintenance operation. Once the arc is completely stabilised, the ballast provides 85 V in conventional D1 and D2 systems, or 42 V with mercury-free D3 and D4 systems.
The correlated color temperature (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_temperature#Correlated_color_temperature) of HID headlamp bulbs, at between 4100 K and 4400 K, is often described in marketing literature as being closer to the 6500 K of sunlight compared with tungsten-halogen bulbs at 3000 K to 3550 K. Nevertheless, HID headlamps' light output is not similar to daylight. The spectral power distribution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectral_density#Applications) (SPD) of an automotive HID headlamp is discontinuous, while the SPD of a filament lamp, like that of the sun, is a continuous curve. Moreover, the color rendering index (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color-rendering_index) (CRI) of tungsten-halogen headlamps (≥0.98) is much closer than that of HID headlamps (~0.75) to standardised sunlight (1.00). Studies have shown no significant safety effect of this degree of CRI variation in headlighting.
The arc within an HID headlamp bulb generates considerable short-wave ultraviolet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet) (UV) light, but none of it escapes the bulb. A UV-absorbing hard glass shield is incorporated around the bulb's arc tube. This is important to prevent degradation of UV-sensitive components and materials in headlamps, such as polycarbonate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycarbonate) lenses and reflector hardcoats. The lamps do emit considerable near-UV light.
European vehicles equipped with HID headlamps are required by ECE regulation 48 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Forum_for_Harmonization_of_Vehicle_Regulatio ns) also to be equipped with headlamp lens cleaning systems and automatic beam levelling control. Both of these measures are intended to reduce the tendency for high-output headlamps to cause high levels of glare to other road users.
HID headlamp bulb types D1R, D1S, D2R, D2S and 9500 contain the toxic heavy metal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metals) mercury (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_%28element%29). The disposal of mercury-containing vehicle parts is increasingly regulated throughout the world, for example under US EPA regulations (http://www.epa.gov/epaoswer/hazwaste/id/univwast/lamps/lamps.htm). Newer HID bulb designs D3R, D3S, D4R, and D4S contain no mercury, but are not electrically or physically compatible with headlamps designed for previous bulb types.
The arc light source in an HID headlamp is fundamentally different from the filament light source used in tungsten/halogen headlamps. For that reason, HID-specific optics are used to collect and distribute the light. Installing HID bulbs in headlamps designed to take filament bulbs results in improperly-focused beam patterns and excessive glare, and is therefore illegal in almost all countries.[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlamp#_note-6)

json3904
01-09-2008, 12:07 PM
there are countless cars and trucks that are running hid in my area the have the standard light fixtures.... i will just keep the oemso if i get pulled over i will just swap them out.... lol

Ricer-X
01-09-2008, 12:09 PM
werd, same here
i searched and i have YET to find where it says it is actually illegal to have HIDs without the low beam cutoff

drumboy
01-09-2008, 09:51 PM
Ricer-X,

Read the last paragraph from your own quote, about the practice of HID units in standard filament housing. That's the illegal part... :)

Anyway, the lights will not perform well, and your cheap "autozone look" will only cause glare and distraction to others and atract the law...

I also would love to have HIDs in my Xterra (I had OEM ones in my previous vehicle--Mazda 3), but the only way to get a real benefit out of them is to have your lights retrofitted with projectors to focus the beam.

Peace.

json3904
01-09-2008, 10:21 PM
ok so this is what i will do.... i will get on ebay and buy Click ME (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/98-00-NISSAN-FRONTIER-00-01-XTERRA-HEADLIGHTS-CORNER-99_W0QQitemZ150203592345QQihZ005QQcategoryZ33710QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) then put the hids into them....LOL

Ricer-X
01-10-2008, 06:09 AM
if the those are projector than i already have procetor lamps

i for sure do not have the diffuser lenses

json3904
01-10-2008, 06:55 AM
oh well im not going to let somthing minor stop me from doing it.... lol i will let you know (ricer) what i end up doing....

Ricer-X
01-10-2008, 07:03 AM
ok
i did a little more digging
jason you should read throught this

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html

json3904
01-10-2008, 07:54 AM
now that has alot of info some of ut is sogood like the tests that they dont even have to load up.... lol i read it and i still want them...... i bet if somone looked at our taillight tinting they would proab say that was illegal to but we did it ..... i dont know i think if the headlights i prev. postedare the projectors then i will do it.... i will let you know what i decide....

Ricer-X
01-10-2008, 09:02 AM
this is what im going to do, a REAL retrofit

www.theretrofitsource.com

json3904
01-10-2008, 09:14 AM
they dont have anything for the xterra.....

Ricer-X
01-10-2008, 09:19 AM
its not vehicle specific, thats why it called a "retrofit" bc you take other oem projectors, like off a lex or bmw and custom fit/mount them into your stock housing
read the DIY
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/DIY.html

i plan on ordering a 2nd set of headlamps so i can take my time doing this

then getin some bixenon lights, or perhaps fitting 2 projectors into each lamp, havent decided, either way, ill paint the stock reflector black or silver to match my roof rack
it'll be pimp and done right

json3904
01-10-2008, 09:40 AM
if we get yours done right i might end up going this way.... we will see

drumboy
01-10-2008, 02:23 PM
its not vehicle specific, thats why it called a "retrofit" bc you take other oem projectors, like off a lex or bmw and custom fit/mount them into your stock housing
read the DIY
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/DIY.html

i plan on ordering a 2nd set of headlamps so i can take my time doing this

then getin some bixenon lights, or perhaps fitting 2 projectors into each lamp, havent decided, either way, ill paint the stock reflector black or silver to match my roof rack
it'll be pimp and done right

Now, you are talkin'... :wink-big:

richiebowen
03-07-2008, 12:21 PM
I am running HIDs in a normal light fixture with my X and they work excellent. They are brighter but not blinding. As for the illegal there are specific laws about this and in some locations HID's are illegal if they are aftermarket regardless if you put thim in a actual HID fixture. They also have exactly the same pattern output as the halogen because they locate the light in the exact position as the halogen.

I have had them in my VW and My X and see cops all the time and never get pulled over. But I live in Oregon i dont think there are any laws for this here.

pvfjr
03-07-2008, 01:22 PM
Hey, a Lane County resident! What are the odds? But yeah, it's true, laws on the road are pretty loose around here. I get away with quite a bit that would never fly farther east. Or farther south, for that matter, or to the north I suppose. :mocking: I had to be a lot more careful when I lived in WA.

Anyway, as odds would have it, I actually do have the JDM lights off ebay that json3904 posted. I didn't know it at the time, but they actually come with Philips 45/65w bulbs. I got some 80/90w 9004's to put in there, they look pretty good. Though I haven't had them on the road yet because of that ball joint. I'll try them out soon though and can let you know. One things for sure, my stock setup was LAME. Yellowed, cracked and fogged up lenses, yellowish low wattage bulbs, etc.

cynicroute
04-14-2008, 10:41 AM
Ricer-X,

Read the last paragraph from your own quote, about the practice of HID units in standard filament housing. That's the illegal part... :)

Anyway, the lights will not perform well, and your cheap "autozone look" will only cause glare and distraction to others and atract the law...

I also would love to have HIDs in my Xterra (I had OEM ones in my previous vehicle--Mazda 3), but the only way to get a real benefit out of them is to have your lights retrofitted with projectors to focus the beam.

Peace.

:crikey:
Check this thread. This sums up this debate:
http://thenewx.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=9427&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=hid

AXION
04-14-2008, 10:53 AM
I just dropped in the 9007 8500k HID blues from Euro Dezigns that are D.O.T. approved... There was an article in the paper where some guy from California got pulled over at night from having FLAME THROWERS on...

The O.S.P. wouldn't let him drive anymore and his car had to sit till daylight.... :usuck:

cbzdel
04-14-2008, 11:13 AM
I have one of these, http://www.thexenonstore.com/mazda3gbindex.php

I have bought 3 of these and put it in ever car I have, 6000k is my favorite color temp. The seller is AWESOME!! He helps out with any problems and really does a good job with warranty work, I had a faulty ballast in one kit.

I recommend this kit to any and everyone, and the only reason the site looks so crappy is because its his group buy site form a mazda3 forum, but he still sells to anyone.

cynicroute
09-18-2008, 12:23 AM
http://xterramods.summitdesign.ca/zen

kizzolie
07-08-2010, 12:15 AM
i got a set of single filament 5000K hid 9007s....anyone interested in buying?

mtbxterra11
07-08-2010, 07:48 AM
I just bought some HIDs that should be here next week, 6000K with 55w ballast. I drove my little bros 370Z with the xenon lights and was sold thereafter because the amount of light that they produce is just insane. Now, I have about a quarter to 1/2 an inch extra rake (haven't measured how much extra settling has occured since I installed them) than my X came with because of my AAL in the rear so I'm aimed down alittle anyway, so i'm not gonna worry too much. I see people everyday with HID coverted headlamps. Only thing I don't look forward to is pulling my Volant CAI back out to install the HIDs. Oh well, do what I gotta do.