So here it is guys, trying to set something up for August 7th. Thinking of getting together at either Hungry Valley or Cleghorn Ridge. Both places have different trails. Those for stock, slightly modded, and heavily modded. i'm pretty sure tho we'll be sticking to the slightly modded trails but we'll see whos feeling adventurous. i'm thinking it could be a one day thing or if others want they can camp out. i know for sure that Hungry Valley has camp sites and BBQ pits. not so sure about Cleghorn Ridge. if you're down to go sign up! i tried this a few months ago and.. yea no1 signed up. theres more people from SoCal now so hopefully we get something going...

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Name is back to original name.... until further notice

I'm interested but can't commit to a date that far out just yet.

how far is that from say like sacramento ?

well the reason its so far out is to be able to have some time to actually plan it out and request time off for those who want to go..

its a goood.. 10 hrs id say..

Damn too far sorry id be down for like 5-6 , but since in a hour south of sac. its still a little too far but keep me posted if you guys go on a wheeling trip alittle closer to home id definetly be down !

what is slightly modified?? I'm bone stock! and I'm brand new to being an off road driver

I'm down as long as it's not Hungry Valley. Let's do Cleghorn and then maybe a couple other trails in the Big Bear area. There's some really good stuff up there.

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what is slightly modified?? I'm bone stock! and I'm brand new to being an off road driver

Yo Amber, when they say "stock" SUVs, they aren't really thinking of a stock ORE Xterra. With skids, Bilstein shocks and a rear locker, it might as well be slightly modified. There really isn't a lot your Xterra can't do. That'll more be up to your confidence level than your ride's ability. But, speaking for myself and hopefully the others here as well, I won't let a noob get themselves into trouble if I see it coming. Go slow and easy, ask for help if you need it, and don't proceed until you're sure you can (or your spotter is).

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Yo Amber, when they say "stock" SUVs, they aren't really thinking of a stock ORE Xterra. With skids, Bilstein shocks and a rear locker, it might as well be slightly modified. There really isn't a lot your Xterra can't do. That'll more be up to your confidence level than your ride's ability. But, speaking for myself and hopefully the others here as well, I won't let a noob get themselves into trouble if I see it coming. Go slow and easy, ask for help if you need it, and don't proceed until you're sure you can (or your spotter is).

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LOL... yea but I don't have those awsome bumpers or a lift -- yet :) but I have only done the off road driving I have posted on here... :) I looked up that place and its 3 and a half hours away... and I have not seen my Aug schedule yet.. probably not till July!! :)

I did find out that that Valley place is HOT in Aug though... and that Cleghorn does have two routes... one easy one hard and they crisscross ...

Have you done this tail before?

With the ORE you really don't need a lift for most things. And the bumper is just to look killer and kill your gas mileage, though I will get Schrocked sooner or later because they are bad-ass. It's been said by me and many, many, many other people before me.... a Nisan Xterra Off Road Edition is a superb off roading vehicle right off the dealer's lot. Instant fun..... just add gas.

I've done Cleghorn and find it pretty vanilla. Though much better than Hungry Valley which is basically a closed area criss-crossed with trails that feels more like a dog run at a park than anything. Anyway, Cleghorn's high enough in elevation to be cooler than the surrounding areas. And still further up the mountain will be down right nice.

So I say pencil the drive in and invite a friend!

cleghorn it is unless u may want to try big bear. ive done the easy trail at cleghorn.. its not that bad. i did it bone stock.. no lift, no bumpers, no nothing. i did keep it on the easy side but only because it was my first time out. like nate said its all about keeping control and not using too much acceleration.. and believe me.. wrecking a car is the last thing we want to do. even if its not ours.

Cleghorn's relatively short. How about we meet at Cleghorn Rd. at I-15 just north of Rancho Cucamonga/Fontana and then use it as the jumping off point? After we do Cleghorn, we can drive up to some higher elevation roads (easy to occasionally moderate difficulty) and not cook our balls off in the summer heat?

Those who wish to can camp over night, and the rest can be home in time for a late dinner.

this sounds cool.. i might be up for this but not for sure yet. mine is bonestock just got mine 2mos ago.

I think as long as people have a 4X4 they'll be fine. These are not hardcore trails.

Look into Burns Canyon/Rattlesnake Canyon. For those that want to add additonal trail time to their trip can take Holcumb Vally/Crabflats trail.

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Ya that's were I was thinkin of starting off. Well figure it out when it gets closer to that time. Even if its just a few of us it should be fun

Well figure it out when it gets closer to that time. Even if its just a few of us it should be fun

Agreed.

I might be able to check it out. we'll have to see as we get closer to that time. I like going to Borrego and everything just because its familiar.. :) I hear big bear has some crazy stuff though...

Yup, there's some pretty gnarly trails on Big Bear, but I don't think anybody's suggesting we try them. One cool thing about Cleghorn is that there are some hard trails that diverge from the main trail and then re-join it a short ways later, so people will have the option to take them and yet not get separated from the group.

i dont have 4x4 =(

Get some tow straps, well pull you along.

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i dont have 4x4 =(

no one's perfect :) If you get stuck we'll relay your GPS location to the local search and rescue team. j/k

I did some of the trails in Big Bear with my 2WD 4Runner without any problems. You'll be just fine.

-Shawn

u dont really need 4x4... it is nice to have but i'm sure u'll be able to manage.

if 2wd can make it I should be fine.. does anyone have photos of these trails from previous times?

Here's a road further up the mountain.

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r99/nattybread/Xterra%20Stuff/DSC00819.jpg


Here's one of the roads you might want to stay off if you don't have 4x4.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r99/nattybread/Xterra%20Stuff/DSC00832.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r99/nattybread/Xterra%20Stuff/DSC00835.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r99/nattybread/Xterra%20Stuff/DSC00833.jpg


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heres 2 pics from the last time i went... still waiting on my buddy for more pics tho

http://www.clubxterra.org/forums/showthread.php?t=18652

and.. well that sux.. i thought i had more... its not that bad tho. u should def. come!

RawkerStatus - there are some serious rocks there... but some look like you don't have to go over them like the Tacoma on that huge one LOL!!! :) Your avatar is there!! That is some serious articulation!

Nate- Do you have a lift?? I can't really tell because every picture is stuffed! :) That downhill rock area is more then I have done yet... Looks a little serious .. Did you go through some mud your tires and sides look like some fun happened! :)

RawkerStatus - there are some serious rocks there... but some look like you don't have to go over them like the Tacoma on that huge one LOL!!! :) Your avatar is there!! That is some serious articulation!

Nate- Do you have a lift?? I can't really tell because every picture is stuffed! :) That downhill rock area is more then I have done yet... Looks a little serious .. Did you go through some mud your tires and sides look like some fun happened! :)

Yea, that particular trail is rated difficult and not recommended for novice drivers/people w/ low ground clearance. Here's what I drove on to get there. Piece o' cake!

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r99/nattybread/Xterra%20Stuff/DSC00822.jpg

My drive way to my house is more difficult than the trail drive in LOL!! :) Would you consider mine low? I thought I had a nice amount stock.

My drive way to my house is more difficult than the trail drive in LOL!! :) Would you consider mine low? I thought I had a nice amount stock.

Seriously, the only place that you may have difficulty is Rattlesnake canyon. However, with a good spotter and some patience you will be able to run just about anything in Big Bear that is not an "expert only" trail.

You and my soon-to-be-wife should have a good time up there.

-Shawn

Seriously, the only place that you may have difficulty is Rattlesnake canyon. However, with a good spotter and some patience you will be able to run just about anything in Big Bear that is not an "expert only" trail.

You and my soon-to-be-wife should have a good time up there.

-Shawn

R you going to let her drive??

Yes ma'am. How far she drives is totally up to her.

Seriously, the only place that you may have difficulty is Rattlesnake canyon. However, with a good spotter and some patience you will be able to run just about anything in Big Bear that is not an "expert only" trail.


Rattlesnake Canyon isn't that hard. I went up it 6 months ago solo and didn't have a single issue. Honestly, I've even gotten up "expert only" trails when my X was bone stock. Hell, a buddy and I drove up Mengal Pass in Death Valley a few years ago before I even changed from OEM tires. Trust me when I say as long as you don't pull a bone headed move you'll be just fine.

That should give me enough time to pick up some new meats. If I've got those on in time I'll definitely give it a shot in my 4X2.

Yes ma'am. How far she drives is totally up to her.

That is awesome! :)

Rattlesnake Canyon isn't that hard. I went up it 6 months ago solo and didn't have a single issue. Honestly, I've even gotten up "expert only" trails when my X was bone stock. Hell, a buddy and I drove up Mengal Pass in Death Valley a few years ago before I even changed from OEM tires. Trust me when I say as long as you don't pull a bone headed move you'll be just fine.

Yea, I agree.

That should give me enough time to pick up some new meats. If I've got those on in time I'll definitely give it a shot in my 4X2.

Rattlesnake Canyon probably not a good idea in a 4x2.

Rattlesnake Canyon probably not a good idea in a 4x2.

Damn it. I love my X but I think it's time to sell her and get one with 4x4.

Damn it. I love my X but I think it's time to sell her and get one with 4x4.

You will not regret it, that's for sure.

Yea when i was gettin my X... well I wasn't really looking for one but yea it chose me and I'm glad it was a 4x4

If my '00 X was a 4x4 I'd still own it. I intend on keeping my '05 ORE as long as she can keep herself together. I like the idea of driving a vehicle into the dirt.

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anyone else ready to commit? its gonna be fffuuuunnnnnn!!!

I want to go. Just depending on work.

anyone else ready to commit? its gonna be fffuuuunnnnnn!!!

Good times!

Yo Rawker, would you like help planning the itinerary or would you rather do it yourself? I ask because I have some definite ideas about where to go, but I don't wanna hijack your trip. Hate it when I invite people to do something and they start changing the plan, you know?

That would actually be pretty awesome. Let me know what u have in mind

Coolio man! Glad to participate. :) I'm out of town right now so my trail guide isn't available to me, but off the top of my head here's what I'm thinking.....

Meet up in the morning at Cleghorn trailhead along I-15. Cleghorn is mellow enough for people to get their rhythm. Then at Lake Arrowhead where the trail ends, we hit the highway and go around to the north side of the mountain range where we'll do Grapevine Canyon (I think that's what it's called). We drive up into the mountains from there. Stop for lunch along that trail and enjoy a good view. Once on the top we'll do Clark's Summit or Skyline Drive.

From there people can either head home or find a camping spot. Next day more alpine trails and then back down the mountain to Rattlesnake Canyon and then home.

I would like to stress that none of these trails is rated any higher than medium difficulty and should be completely doable with a stock 4X4.

How does that strike you?

Here's a good Big Bear trail resource. (http://www.dirtopia.com/wiki/Big_Bear)

That sounds like a ton a fun. I am pretty much stock 4x4 with a lift. Assuming I don't have to work, I will be down!

dammit im out of town until like... the 12th or 13th.

i wanna go its just too far

Sounds Fun !!
To bad I'm a 4x2 and still in reliablity testing w/ my new/old X !!
Have Fun !!

nate, sorry i thought i responded earlier. but yeah that sounds awesome. ive been there before but not leading. most likely you'll be leading. if others that havent been come along then i'll trail at the end. dang i'm super excited now. hahaha.

Ya man! When I get home next week I'll look at my trail guides and post my ideas in detail. It's gonna be fun. My wife said even she might come this time.

Just got back from Vacation :) and I drove past cleghorn that is kinda far out there...

yea id say.. maybe.. 2.5 hrs for you? its well worth it.. its no glamis by far but still fun.

Yea, but you can't really compare the two. Glamis is no Big Bear either. Personally, I like mountains and trails over sand dunes.

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Yea, I have not done enough trails to like it over sand but I also ride quads and all that stuff so sand is amazing... :) I have not taken the X out to the dunes yet but will come winter :)

So here's my official proposition re this trip:

Day 1


9am - Meet at the trailhead of Cleghorn Rd. (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Cleghorn+Road,+San+Bernardino,+CA&sll=34.36271,-117.019501&sspn=0.403002,0.596008&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Cleghorn+Rd,+San+Bernardino,+California&t=h&z=13) at I-15
9:30 - Hit the trail which takes less than 2 hours to complete
11:30 - Hit hwy 138 N. to hwy 173 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=hwy+173&sll=34.315084,-117.14447&sspn=0.403231,0.596008&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=California+173,+San+Bernardino,+California&t=h&z=12) E. near Silverwood Lake
12pm - From Pinnacles Staging Area, head up Willow Creek Rd. (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=willow+creek+jeep+trail&sll=34.30842,-117.276993&sspn=0.125063,0.191917&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Willow+Creek+Jeep+Trail,+Hesperia,+San+Berna rdino,+California+92345&ll=34.298281,-117.183437&spn=0.062539,0.095959&t=h&z=14) into the mountains for a short 1 - 2 hour cruise up.
Eat lunch somewhere along the road
2:30 - reconnect with hwy 173 near Lake Arrowhead and then catch hwy 18 to Big Bear Lake, then connect up with hwy 38 to Fawnskin
3 - From Fawnskin, take Grapevine Canyon (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Grapevine+Canyon+trail&sll=34.198883,-117.447538&sspn=0.050474,0.074501&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Grapevine+Canyon+Rd,+Lucerne+Valley,+San+Ber nardino,+California+92356&ll=34.307711,-117.058983&spn=0.201634,0.298004&t=h&z=12) back down the north side of the mountains on a scenic mostly easy but occasionally moderate drive along F.S. 3N14 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3N14&sll=34.313666,-116.93573&sspn=0.250111,0.383835&g=3N16&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=3N14,+Big+Bear,+San+Bernardino,+California&ll=34.355058,-117.068596&spn=0.249987,0.383835&t=h&z=12) and 3N16. The trail should take about 2 - 3 hours and leaves plenty of daylight to either go home from Lucerne Valley where it ends up, or go back into the mountains for camping and another day of trails.
Drive form Lucerne Valley east to hwy 247 and do Rattlesnake Canyon (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Rattlesnake+Canyon,+Lucerne+Valley,+San+Bernardi no,+California+92356&sll=34.298281,-117.183437&sspn=0.062539,0.095959&g=willow+creek+jeep+trail&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FQooDAIdjFkL-Q&split=0&hq=&hnear=Rattlesnake+Canyon,+Lucerne+Valley,+San+Bern ardino,+California+92356&ll=34.280198,-116.703644&spn=0.25021,0.383835&t=h&z=12). Somewhere along the road find a spot to camp out. If we're making good time, there's nicer spots to camp up the mountain after Rattlesnake Canyon.


Day 2


9am - continue up the mountain to hwy 38
Take 3N16 through the mountains and end up west of Fawnskin
11am - Drive beautiful and easy Skyline Drive (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Skyline+Drive&sll=34.307711,-117.058983&sspn=0.201634,0.298004&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Skyline+Dr,+Angelus+Oaks,+San+Bernardino,+Ca lifornia+92305&ll=34.218332,-116.916332&spn=0.100924,0.149002&t=h&z=13) that starts and ends near big Bear
Lunch somewhere along the way
1pm - Putter around on various trails
Maybe hit Clarks Summit (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2N10,+san+bernardino&sll=34.184684,-116.904659&sspn=0.100964,0.149002&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=2N10,+Angelus+Oaks,+San+Bernardino,+Californ ia+92305&ll=34.219042,-116.904831&spn=0.100923,0.149002&t=h&z=13) on the way down.


How does this sound to you guys? Mostly easy with some moderate thrown in for good measure. Optional 2nd day for people who wish to camp out.



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sounds awesome. i'm game. i'll probably only do the 1st day tho.

Can I come? I'm new and live in the Corona area. Someone text me to keep in touch. I'm not on the forum too much.

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I'm all stock with some Toyo A/T's. Also 4x2, suck!!!! Is this trail 2wd friendly?

Can I come? I'm new and live in the Corona area. ............. Is this trail 2wd friendly?

Yes you can come, it's open to everybody. Read the thread for meeting instructions.

No, the trail is not 4X2 friendly. Sorry.

So who's coming to this thing anyway?

I still don't have a schedule.... but if I do come out it would be that morning till mid afternoon...but most likely I work :(

Yes you can come, it's open to everybody. Read the thread for meeting instructions.

No, the trail is not 4X2 friendly. Sorry.

All good. Big sis' has a 2010 4wd X. It's all stock. Will that work?

All good. Big sis' has a 2010 4wd X. It's all stock. Will that work?

That will work perfectly.

I still don't have a schedule.... but if I do come out it would be that morning till mid afternoon...but most likely I work :(

What do you do for a living?

That will work perfectly.

Cool! Keep me posted. :wink-big:

I am going to go!!!!

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Sweet! I already got the day off... barely tho. My boss scheduled me but then wen I questioned I'm he told me I hadnt written it down but then showed him I had he was like oh... I suppose u can have it off.

Excellent!

In prep for the trip, just took off the mudflaps!!!
Been meaning to do it, so now had a reason.

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Just got my schedule and I work that sat...so I won't be able to .make it

Guess it's gonna be a sausage fest, gentlemen. So let's rename this outing "The Cleghorn Summer Sausage Run 2010".


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count me in on this, ill be coming up from sd so its not too close but sounds like fun... and someone cant count :)

you might be able to change the name since i am bringing a girl... im not sharing though.

Lol sweet. Ill change the name back when I get home. Alright guys. Its this sat so get ur stuff ready. Don't forget lots of water. Anyone have a cb?

No cb, but I can yell pretty loud.

I've got a tow strap and a couple of trashcans that I normally use.

How about those Motorola talkabouts? I think I have a set of those.

I have a set of talkabouts that I will be bringing.

Is Nate's plan still the meeting spot?

Any tips on the best way to get there?

Hopefully, I'm excited for some new trails. Cleghorn rd is off the 15 fwy so take the 15

Here's how you get there. (http://maps.google.com/maps/mm?ie=UTF8&hl=en&ll=34.297997,-117.448483&spn=0.025207,0.039139&z=15)

Unfortunately something has come up and I am no longer able to attend this trip. I really apologize for this. I hope you guys have fun and be safe.

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Should we postpone since you had the plan Nate?

I definetly still want to go, I've mapped out most of what nate had planned for Saturday and it looks like a lot of fun, not too sure where to go at rattlesnake but the maps full of trails to explore.

nate!?!?! wtf? well that sux. hopefully u can make it next time. i'm definitely going. as far as where we go we can make it up from there. its not that bad.

Ready to go. I am stoked.

Alright guys. Tommorows the day. Meeting up at cleghorn exit off the 15. If u need directions txt me.. sent u guys my number in a pm. Don't forget lots of water

i still want to go... but mine isnt 4x4. =(

We kinda already went but from what I understand some other guys r goin on the 22nd

This event already past but You Could go but you wouldn't be doing any of the hard trails. Unless they are downhill but you need atleast a pml and remove your sidesteps. Right Scott :-)

You don't have to remove them. The trail will most likely do that for you.

^^^hahaha good one.