A couple of guys came by for a mod day today. Installed a bumper and some lights. Nice bumper but the brackets didn't line up correctly. PITA. Anyway here are the pics.


http://s279.photobucket.com/albums/kk158/mene62374/Mod%20day%202010/?albumview=slideshow

Ive seen that snow before...... Some one spent some money on that bumper!!!
Looks great whats going on with the roof?

great pics!

its funny, on snowy days like that that we RARELY get down here, everyone stays inside and hides, no one is out in the driveway workin on a truck all day. so...props for that i guess...though to you its probably nothing big.

the weather sure turned bad.nice pictures

it was 18 all day. They stripped out 3 bolts in the rack and yanked it off. left 3 holes in the roof.

i need new friends

You have old ones?

awesome pics...wish I lived closer. Would of came up and helped if I didn't live 2 or 3 hours away. So who all showed up?

Are any of those guys member of CX? I love the two black X's!

What kind of lift and tires and such does the guy with the black 1st gen xterra have?

Black first gen is Broden21. There was stephen (sexterra) dave (xterravt) dan (crashdan) and a few others that aren't on here.

the bone stock with lightbar is mine :) ... not for long.

what kind of bumper is that I would love one on my 2nd gen

http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/crashdan/gpax%20mod%20day/

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and its an iron bull bumper. install was a little more problematic than desired ... required us to drill out bolt holes because the bumper didn't even line up with its own holes and it comes with no mounting hardware.

and its an iron bull bumper. install was a little more problematic than desired ... required us to drill out bolt holes because the bumper didn't even line up with its own holes and it comes with no mounting hardware.


I would not expect bs like that from a bumper in that price range...

http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b251/crashdan/gpax%20mod%20day/

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and its an iron bull bumper. install was a little more problematic than desired ... required us to drill out bolt holes because the bumper didn't even line up with its own holes and it comes with no mounting hardware.


So that guy (IRON BULL) was on here talking about Quaility... vs Shrock and his doesnt even line up? I like it bro.. Just saying

I did like the quality. Seemed strong but they need to get the measurements right and supply all the hardware for the product. Then it would be worth the cash

it didn't even come w/ hardware?? Wow!!!
My $800 ARB did and it lined up even after I rear ended a Camaro before I installed the ARB. :D

we had to bore out the holes that attache the bumper to the bumper mounts out to i think it was 13/16th ... not sure i wasnt the one drilling those.

we also had to redrill all the holes for the bracket that attaches the grille to the bumper, the bracket holes didnt come close to the holes in teh bumper

and we had to spend 30 bucks in bolts to put it all together

When it gets warmer we will make slots in the brackets so that its adjustable ... drilling at 15* was a bit cold and drained the drill quick

awesome pics...wish I lived closer. Would of came up and helped if I didn't live 2 or 3 hours away. So who all showed up?

he wouldn't have asked you if you did.......damn mod mike!:aufkopfhauen-big:

he wouldn't have asked you if you did.......damn mod mike!:aufkopfhauen-big:

it was a last min get together arranged over at TheNewX. i'm sure if i would have called you, you would have had some plans already. Stop being a baby. LOL

Just pointing out that the holes not lining up, assuming it was close, is not that hard to happen, considering the frame tweaking that can occur, and the variability from X to X anyway.

Not including hardware is a bit weird....I'd have called to see if the forgot it for example.

Some, like Shrock, make the holes slotted, etc, as they EXPECT a bit of X to X variability....and build tolerances into the mounting system, alignment to body panels, etc.

Just pointing out that the holes not lining up, assuming it was close, is not that hard to happen, considering the frame tweaking that can occur, and the variability from X to X anyway.

Not including hardware is a bit weird....I'd have called to see if the forgot it for example.

Some, like Shrock, make the holes slotted, etc, as they EXPECT a bit of X to X variability....and build tolerances into the mounting system, alignment to body panels, etc.

no slotted holes for adjustment and it was more than 1/2" off. Hardware is not included with the bumper. We called yesterday and they said its so the customer can use whatever hardware they want. Even the bracket they supplied for the bottom of the grill to their bumper didn't line up with the holes in their own bumper. just bad.

no slotted holes for adjustment and it was more than 1/2" off. Hardware is not included with the bumper. We called yesterday and they said its so the customer can use whatever hardware they want. Even the bracket they supplied for the bottom of the grill to their bumper didn't line up with the holes in their own bumper. just bad.

LOL


Great, a more expensive KMA

:D

basically. Oh and i forgot to mention after all the drilling to get the bumper on it was about 1/2" lower on the driver side. Left a big gap between the bumper and head light. you can see where the gap starts to show if you follow the bottom of the grill.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk158/mene62374/Mod%20day%202010/PICT4022.jpg

It kills me how this guy said he would put his bumpers up against any ones for quality
And to hear the added issues.. Why would you ever want the customer to pick bolts out?
You have to think as a manufacturer the person buying the bumper might not know what is best to use.

basically. Oh and i forgot to mention after all the drilling to get the bumper on it was about 1/2" lower on the driver side. Left a big gap between the bumper and head light. you can see where the gap starts to show if you follow the bottom of the grill.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk158/mene62374/Mod%20day%202010/PICT4022.jpg

OH HELL NO! Id be on the phone... these damn things are like 1500$
This keeps getting worse

suprisingly Ben (owner of the X) didn't mind it. i think he was just thrilled he has an aftermarket bumper. i would have been livid.

I get having a new toy and being happy.. but dude! thats Way too much cash to just say its ok! I think the bumpers look kick ass! BUT damn!

PS I hate hate hate that name in the front.. I dont like that shrock does that too

x2

I guess that is what you get for being the 1st to get one his front bumpers. I went w/ something that has been done many times and has been tested so I didn't have any problems or concerns when I bought it or installed it. I would accept everything to be almost 100% on a $1500 bumper...that is a lot of cash for a front bumper. You could almost bought 2 of my ARBs or got a sick custom bumper built from someone. Mike was it heavier then a Shrock or ARB?

You can fill that in.

On the Iron Bull, as they make it enormous with giant cut-out lettering, a simple plate behind the letters in a matching color would make it all but invisible.

:D

RIGHT ON! bluex

I think some of it is for air to get in but DAMN! ugly!

well this bumper weighs 180 lbs and I think a ARB and Shrock bumpers weigh in around 100 lbs....so that is an extra 80 lbs or more on the front end of your X. Im curious on how this performs off road and when you need to use your winch on some pulls. let us know....

he yank the rails off? i guess that is a new look...

I guess that is what you get for being the 1st to get one his front bumpers. I went w/ something that has been done many times and has been tested so I didn't have any problems or concerns when I bought it or installed it. I would accept everything to be almost 100% on a $1500 bumper...that is a lot of cash for a front bumper. You could almost bought 2 of my ARBs or got a sick custom bumper built from someone. Mike was it heavier then a Shrock or ARB?

totally agree. don't know how much it weighed. didn't lift it.

he yank the rails off? i guess that is a new look...

he bought a rack to replace the stock one. he didn't bring it but he just wanted the old one off.

Is this guy on this board? I dont want him to think we are so mean... I like the look just not the price and quality... from what you have told us

don't know if he is on here. like i said i do like the look. Quality looks good but they need to improve on fit and finish and quality control.

Wow...1.5k dropped on a bumper that has great quality but crappy measurements....

I'd just stick with Shrock.

it was a last min get together arranged over at TheNewX. i'm sure if i would have called you, you would have had some plans already. Stop being a baby. LOL

o this was yesterday.... yeah I was busy. :i-love-you-big:

no the bumper cost 1700 cuz he got the stinger put on it. but he paid 1300 because he is going to show it off and send them pictures. so they gave him a deal.

i would have sent the bumper back, not pictures.

no the bumper cost 1700 cuz he got the stinger put on it. but he paid 1300 because he is going to show it off and send them pictures. so they gave him a deal.

Wow!!! Im speechless :)

I did not get the memo on this or I'd have swung by. It looks like you had enough tool gofers though :)

i would have sent the bumper back, not pictures.

x2!

Mike:

Wow those outdoor Philly "Chop shops" move quickly.

:D

CISO

I did not get the memo on this or I'd have swung by. It looks like you had enough tool gofers though :)

Yea it was a last min thing. The guys over at TheNewX had a group together already but didn't have anywhere to have a mod day so i offered up my place.

Mike:

Wow those outdoor Philly "Chop shops" move quickly.

:D

CISO

We know how to do it in the hood!

Mike i told you the story so you know...but i agree with almost everyone on here...when you pay 1000 or 1500 or whatever for a product you expect to "bolt up" (reguardless of tweaks or settling) even if its at most 1/4" off thats cool...but when a product is more then 1/2" or in my case a full inch in some places you're gunna be pissed...i know it was a new toy but come on i got a new shrock rear that i had to send out to get plasma cut just so i could bolt it up....i was livid...im over it now...but not only did it take 7mo. for my rear bumper to come in but had to spend 60 extra bucks and wait one more day for it to get installed...still isnt perfect yet...but anyway...i've learned that no matter what the company says about it being "bolt up" dont listen...you may get lucky and not have an issue but if you do dont be surprised after all they are "custom" bumpers...sry for the rant everyone

btw i vote on a second last min mod day so maybe we can all help out Mike and get that motor back the freak in his X...any takers?

If I was close id be right there man.....

Cazy day indeed!

I think I made 3 trips to get stuff for the install.
Grade 8 bolts for the bumper mounts
Grade 5 for the grill mount
Step Bits to enlarge the mounting holes
Inline fuses for light install
Attempt to find Stock bumper bolts - We have a hard to find thread pitch I guess. No One in the area had these and everyone Hates Metric I guess.

Besides what has been said. One mount needed a little tweak on the bottom mount as it was too steep of an angle.

As for the Rack. The only reason that 2 of the Nutsert were pulled out is that someone didn't look after cutting and thought that the bolts were free. Not the case but we are installing new Nutserts in those 2 holes.

The Bumper does look really good. I like the stinger a lot.
As for mounting this Bumper. These guys need to go back to work on the mounting of their Bumper to an X.
I can't see another one of their Bumpers going out their doors till this is resolved. They don't even give you the ability to adjust for a B/L like Shrock does.

Good seeing you again Mike

If I'm off on the Engine Mod Day I'll be down

btw i vote on a second last min mod day so maybe we can all help out Mike and get that motor back the freak in his X...any takers?

Nice!

so when is anyone free?

so when is anyone free?

let me know...see if I can come up from VA

let me know...see if I can come up from VA


Ditto, I can free myself from the mall for a while too :)

r you trying to get this done before the m&g on the 20th?? if so ...don't think I can make it up there ...sorry :(

ok here are my plans. i'll be ordering the clutch this friday. hopefully i can get it before next weekend. If so i am gonna start on the install on Sunday 14th cause saturday is the run up at RC. Most likely it will take me more than a week to get it all back in so the weekend of the 20th i'll be workin on it too. Well not on the 20th cause thats the casino M&G. Whoever wants to come by just give me a call and i'll let you know if i'm actually workin on the X or not.

Mike I can give ya a hand Sat. 20th before we go and meet everybody and then maybe we can get some people to come over and we all give ya a hand after too. How does that sound?

awesome

Let me know when you get the clutch in cuz I might be able to help during the week after work poss my buddy too that's two extra sets of hands and my buddy has put a motor in before so that's a plus...maybe we can get u up an running before the m&g on the 20th...maybe

wow how great would that be. Time to warm up the garage!

space heaters mike...space heaters...i have one, its small

I got a heater buddy and a small electric heater. Ill bring in my fire pit if I have too. Ha ha

Mike:

Keep me in the loop. My BMI alone should generate enough heat.

CISO