Ok guys,

I know you all have your opinions so!!!

I am thinking about getting the 31/11.50 R16 super swamper ltb's. Will they fit with the X not lifted yet ? I dont mind if I have to trim a little,,f it..ya know.. I want something that is aggressive like this and it is much cheaper then BFG or Pro Comp tires. Are there any pics anywhere of a non lifted X with similar tires? Do you think it will look ok not being lifted with these tires for now,till I lift it down the road?

Thanks for any input

I have them, they'll fit without lifting. But you DO NOT WANT THESE TIRES for your daily driver.

If you are putting them on a second set of rims for trail use, then you can't beat them, but DO NOT use them as road tires.

cool thnx,, i will look into second set of rims.. do they wear to fast or just too rough for the road. I see people here with SS on all sorts of trucks on the road.. But, i will look into some second ones at a junk yard hopefully cheap.

thanks for your input Anthony

The LTB's are a bias tire, not a radial, and they also have a bit more aggressive tread than the other swampers. The issue with bias tires is they don't actually stay "round" so they are impossible to balance and they make for a VERY rough ride on pavement.

I don't know if snow is ever an issue for you, but they are also really bad on snow covered roads... basically no traction at all. I actually swapped my nearly bald General Grabbers back on to drive in the winter and they work better.

Now... with all that said: These tires are AMAZING offroad, especially in mud. You can run them down to like 10-12psi for rocks too. These things just grab and go!

RicerX also has them... maybe he'll post up his impressions also. (hint, hint, nudge, nudge)

Super awesome tires offroad, terrible on road, no horrible on road, but oh so fantastic offroad.
i had them on for daily driving for 2 weeks cuz im a lazy bastard, not cool.
put the street tires(goodyear silent armor) back on yesterday, now my x feels like a cadillac by comparison.

but this thread is bout the LTBs.
i couldnt believe the mud this 2wd was diggin thru with these tires.
i was thoroughly impressed with the offorad performance

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Well, i wondering about them not being radials and so you cleared that up. I dont have problems with snow here in Orlando, FL .. although there is mud, swamp water and sand in most directions.

I see on 4wheelsparts that interco makes a radial now that fits most oem tire sizes. What is your impression on these?
I think most likely I am just gonna get a second set of wheels if possible,just depends on the $$$ situation ya know. I do love the look of the tire and have heard all great things except the ride is rough but are great off road

i really do appreciate the input from Anthony and Ricer.

thanks guy

If you want swampers as your daily drivers, and you don't want A/T's, I'd either go with the TrXus M/T's or the SSR's.

alright.. i appreciate your help

I have two sets of Super Swamper and both are/were used as my DD's. I have TSL radials and Txrus M/T's. Both are excellent on road and off road. Not sure where you got that bias tires are impossible to balance. Guess I must be the exception to the rule. :hmm:

I think he was saying that the LTB's are bias tires and if I was going to go with Super Swampers then to get the radials or the Txrus for DD.

I have two sets of Super Swamper and both are/were used as my DD's. I have TSL radials and Txrus M/T's. Both are excellent on road and off road. Not sure where you got that bias tires are impossible to balance. Guess I must be the exception to the rule. :hmm:

Both of those are radials. Even with Equal in the LTB's they aren't balanced.

Theres also belted bias.
but with the full bias tires i think they call the 'not roundness' "square tire" or somethign

I would avoid any SS's (even the txrus) as a DD tire unless you like replacing tires at 20K mile intervals.

Any opinions on the Nitto Mud Grapplers?? I'm about to put them on my X... Mind you, I'll not be climbing any boulders any time soon.

I've heard nothing but good things about them. (other than the price)