: Gas prices
BOOFER 09-28-2005, 04:57 PM How's everyboy doing gas mileage-wise? Does anyone else have an 05? Im averaging about 24 MPG when I dont have the AC on. I dont think thats too bad for an SUV. (still hurts though...)
I've been driving it now for a few weeks off and on, exchanging back & forth between it, and my 03 350Z.
It's really starting to grow on me, and I think I'm going to be really glad I bought it when winter comes, and the Z is hibernating in the garage...
Man I wish my Titan would get 24 mpg. I would be a very happy guy.
I really want to get the wife a Xterra 4x4 so I can have it for fun on the weekends. heheh
m4ck
BOOFER 10-06-2005, 07:05 PM Well to be honest, that 24MPG is all highway mileage. My job is 35 miles one way, and its all highway from my neighborhood to the front door of my job.
I'll bet the Titan gets around 16 MPG with the V8... I really liked the Titan. But I just retired my 94 full sized Bronco with the 5.8 V8. That truck was costing me 25 bux a day!!! just to go to & from work. I couldnt go there again. I had to go for something more economical.
My Z gets about 26MPG even though I reach triple digits daily when I drive it. But it's definitely a summer only car. It hibernates in the garage all winter.
Hey, I'll bet I have the highest post count so far on your board! :D
On my Z forum I'm up around 13300 or so in one year. Hopefully it will pick up soon. I see tons of Xterras everyday.
Anyhow, have a good night and talk to you soon.
-John :)
Yeh I need to work on getting the word out about the site. I think it will be a great place once a few more people join in. ClubTitan is a little over 1 yr old now and has about 3700 members now.
spread the word
m4ck
mud man 04-11-2006, 11:36 AM I have an 05 Off Road Auto that has about 2000 miles on it. It started out at 14mpg - now I'm up to 16 - my driving is a combination of city and hwy aprox 50 miles a day. Ive been told it will continue to increase up to 10,000 mile mark. No mods to it yet. I also have a 2001 Mustang GT coupe. Love to put it up against a Z some time. Mustang gets between 18 and 25 depending how you drive it. Some of the goodies on it K+N cold air intake, Flowmaster sst cat back exhaust with xpipe + a Diablo chip. Hope to modify the X as time goes on.
koober1 04-11-2006, 11:38 AM Not sure. I'll figure that out when i fill up.
All I know is $3.09 a gallon SUCKS @$$!!!!!!!!!
ggunn 04-11-2006, 11:44 AM All I know is $3.09 a gallon SUCKS @$$!!!!!!!!!
I filled up yesterday in Montgomery, Al for 2.63 a gallon
koober1 04-11-2006, 11:51 AM I filled up yesterday in Montgomery, Al for 2.63 a gallon
Well you know California, everything is more expensive. Just thinking about what my house cost us makes me sick :eek:
jdXterra 04-18-2006, 04:36 PM When gas hit over $3 last year, I made the mistake of letting my Suburban get close to empty... TWICE. 1st fill up hit me for $102, 2nd one was $106! I should have followed my boss's advice. He gave me 2 pieces of advice when I bought the Suburban. Never check your gas mileage and never let it get to empty.
Haven't even hit the $50 mark filling up the Xterra.
BOOFER 04-19-2006, 04:08 PM I just paid $2.94 for super today (the Z takes super only). Cost me $30.00 for just a hair over 10 gallons.
Sticker shock. Big time. The guy with the SUV in front of me pumped $74.00. He told me that would las him about 2-3 days with the distance he has to travel.
I just read where a Mobil Oil exec got a retirement package of 4 million dollars.
WTF is going on with this country?
xterra1982 04-19-2006, 04:15 PM the more fucked up thing than a 4 million retirement is that the oil industry posted record setting profits of over 4 BILLION dollars last quater.... who in the world needs 4 billion dollars? i mean really...
I've been following my X's gas mileage... and I have to say I'm pretty impressed... 15.5 in town driving with AC on... and about 19-20 hwy.
would putting premium in help anything? anybody know?
how about a k&n filter? I was thinking of putting one in this weekend... anybody have one that can offer some advice?
BOOFER 04-19-2006, 04:31 PM would putting premium in help anything? anybody know?
how about a k&n filter? I was thinking of putting one in this weekend... anybody have one that can offer some advice?
Premium? no it wouldnt help anything. Premium just has more octane in it. Cars with high compression (high performance) engines in them tend to knock if they dont use premium.
K&N filters, if you mean the drop in replacement, do absolutely nothing. Even the CAI's give you a meager HP increase, but they dont change your milage.
xterra1982 04-19-2006, 04:34 PM Good to know :) Thanks.
jp4ever 04-19-2006, 07:00 PM high octane = higher mpg at least in carberator engines my experience only running 89 in new x 19.2 mpg 1st fill up hope it stays there
matt_sr 04-19-2006, 07:06 PM My initial calculations on my 06 are in the low to mid 20's on the highway, with the cruise set at 70 on the nose, and 6th gear. I'm burning 10 gallons a day, same as my old Escape. I'm very impressed. I burn only regular, which has 10 percent ethanol blended in. As far as gas prices, well I'm not sure I believe that black helicopters are flying over my house at night yet. And for koober, my wife and I just bought a new house on a lake, with about 4000 sq. feet of living space for 219,000. Cheaper than on the left coast.
Karpediem 04-20-2006, 04:39 AM I just read where a Mobil Oil exec got a retirement package of 4 million dollars.
WTF is going on with this country?
For how much money they have made I don't think it's that big of a deal. They have earned all their money. I'm sure none of us would be complaining if we got that kind of money. It's all about what people will pay, look at fricken ipods, their sales are going to be ~ 5 billion dollars for this year. If you were in charge of something everyone needed and would pay however much it cost to get it, would you charge as little as possible for it? No, you would charge the maximum amount of money you could for the most profit. IMO the same thing is going on in this country that has always been going on, people want as much money as they can get their hands on.
xterra1982 04-20-2006, 06:25 AM I don't begrudge anybody making a profit. That's what this country is about... capitalism at it's finest. Everyone works TO MAKE money... if you're not making money, why work. But to gross a profit that large, when the entire country is struggling to fill up their tanks is ridiculous. crude oil doesn't cost anywhere near a barrel what they're insinuating.
but I guess there are too many hands in the Oil Pockets, hm?
BOOFER 04-20-2006, 10:34 AM Here's a link to the article I found:
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_3728521?source=rss
matt_sr 04-20-2006, 05:01 PM I own stock in both BP and Exxon, both pay a very handsome dividend. BP pays .54 and Exxon pays .32 per share. I make a few hundred bucks a year from stock options with these companies. I would suggest investing in them, and getting some of the money you spend for fuel, back.
ggunn 04-21-2006, 08:19 AM how about a k&n filter? I was thinking of putting one in this weekend... anybody have one that can offer some advice?
I got a K&N in my X and i don't think it does anything for me. I have been thinking about going with a cone filter and CAI
BOOFER 04-21-2006, 08:32 AM I got a K&N in my X and i don't think it does anything for me. I have been thinking about going with a cone filter and CAI
It just went up 7 cents overnight here in NJ.
BOOFER 04-27-2006, 07:29 AM http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060427/bs_nm/energy_exxon_earns_dc
Exxon Mobil Corp. (NYSE:XOM - news), the world's largest publicly traded oil company, on Thursday reported quarterly profit rose 7 percent to $8.4 billion, pushed higher by the surge in crude oil prices.
It was the biggest profit ever posted by the Texas-based oil behemoth in the first quarter, but it still fell short of Wall Street forecasts.
Exxon Mobil shares fell 2.2 percent to $61.70 in pre-market trading on the Inet electronic brokerage system, down from a Wednesday close at $63.10 on the New York Stock Exchange.
Net income in the first quarter was $8.4 billion, or $1.37 a share, up from $7.86 billion, or $1.22 a share, a year earlier. Analysts' average forecast was $1.41 a share, according to Reuters Estimates.
Revenue jumped to $88.98 billion from $82.05 billion
matt_sr 04-28-2006, 05:57 AM I'd like to pose a question on this matter. Back at some point in the mid to late 80's I believe; most of the kids on this site won't remember this, supercharged you probobly do, oil prices fell to 20 bucks or less per barrell. This caused alot of layoffs in the oil industry, and in Texas they started capping wells because they couldn't afford to pump out the oil. It just wasn't worth it. Where were the liberals with a bail-out plan to help the oil industry and all of the laid off people? You only catch their attention when your making money, and they want it. In the state of Michigan, no friend to conservatives mind you, the state has over 800 million in government pension dollars invested in energy stocks with the big oil companies. Like I said in an earlier post, these companies pay a very high dividend on their stock. Buy some, get in on the action, dividends pay out every three months. Remember, liberalism, socialism and communism are all the same.
BOOFER 04-28-2006, 06:34 AM I'd like to pose a question on this matter. Back at some point in the mid to late 80's I believe; most of the kids on this site won't remember this, supercharged you probobly do, oil prices fell to 20 bucks or less per barrell. This caused alot of layoffs in the oil industry, and in Texas they started capping wells because they couldn't afford to pump out the oil. It just wasn't worth it. Where were the liberals with a bail-out plan to help the oil industry and all of the laid off people? You only catch their attention when your making money, and they want it. In the state of Michigan, no friend to conservatives mind you, the state has over 800 million in government pension dollars invested in energy stocks with the big oil companies. Like I said in an earlier post, these companies pay a very high dividend on their stock. Buy some, get in on the action, dividends pay out every three months. Remember, liberalism, socialism and communism are all the same.
Matt,
It was cheaper back then to buy foreign oil. What would you propose we had done back then to avert the situation, or change the American oil industry?
It's kind of like the situation we have now where we're sending all of our manufacturing over to India because labor is cheap there.
People are simply PO'ed because they're feeling the squeeze on their wallets now, and, at the same time watching the oil companies becomming unnecessarily rich by gouging the public, and justifying it in the wake of a crisis.
As far as investing, dont forget there are alot of people who dont have the capital to invest to the degree to where they would reap any appreciable dividends. Understand too that there are also alot of people who dont have any experience with the stock market, and are timid about jumping into the fray.
xterra1982 04-28-2006, 07:16 AM Matt,
It was cheaper back then to buy foreign oil. What would you propose we had done back then to avert the situation, or change the American oil industry?
It's kind of like the situation we have now where we're sending all of our manufacturing over to India because labor is cheap there.
People are simply PO'ed because they're feeling the squeeze on their wallets now, and, at the same time watching the oil companies becomming unnecessarily rich by gouging the public, and justifying it in the wake of a crisis.
As far as investing, dont forget there are alot of people who dont have the capital to invest to the degree to where they would reap any appreciable dividends. Understand too that there are also alot of people who dont have any experience with the stock market, and are timid about jumping into the fray.
You stole my post, Boof :)
Couple of points...
- The difference between oil companies and other companies is we need gas to survive. It should be treated as a utility like water. What if water cost $3.20 a gallon out of your tap? Although it is cheaper to drill for water than it is to drill for oil, the need for each is equal and you don't hear about your local water companies making record profits. Until cars run on air (and cost less than a small fortune), Nuclear energy is the answer. It is a fact (despite what Hollywood would like you to believe) that it is the cleanest and cheapest form of electricity. The nuke reg folks have stated that difference in nuke plant technology between the 60's and 70's and now is like the Wright Flyer to the Boeing 747. Some would like you to think that cars are the reason for our fuel consumption when nearly all our electricity comes from fossil fuels.
- Texas always turns off their oil pumps when they can't make a profit.
- I remember in the mid 90's in Texas I was paying 71 cents a gallon for gas. Those were the days.
xterra1982 04-28-2006, 08:42 AM - I remember in the mid 90's in Texas I was paying 71 cents a gallon for gas. Those were the days.
Funny you should mention that. Back when I first got my license, I was driving my parents 1996 Ford Tarus Station Wagon... and I remember one time having to fill it up and gas cost $.72 a gallon.. I went in to pay and the clerk said to me:
"You musta been runnin on fumes if it cost you $10 to fill up!!"
Ahhh nostalgia.. those were the days ;)
ggunn 04-28-2006, 09:14 AM In 98-98 i have a 96 civic and I could run with the gas light on for 4 days and the car still would not take more than $9.00.
Maybe everyone should have their own personal nuclear reacter right next to their water heater. :)
BOOFER 04-28-2006, 10:12 AM Maybe everyone should have their own personal nuclear reacter right next to their water heater. :)
The we would all be able to make our own nuclear warheads.....
Slasa E 04-28-2006, 04:52 PM I have an '05 I have been getting about 20 mpg with a combo of highway and city driving. That's better than the 17 that Nissan publishes so I'll take it. My wife's Pathfinder is getting about 16 but I think she probably drives like hell. I noticed that 85 octane gets better gas mileage than mid-grade or premium and saves me $0.20-$0.40/ gallon.
matt_sr 04-28-2006, 05:43 PM Hello all. Sorry about the abrupt post, I'm just not ready to get into class warfare though. I don't like the the high price of oil any more than anyone else, nor do I care for high pay packages for ceo's. I do understand that a minority of people on the left end of the political spectrum have tied the hands of many energy industries. We can't drill off any coast, we can't drill on the north slope, where nothing exits anyway, but cuba and mexico can drill off their coasts. Oil comanies can't get permits to expand refining capacity, I mean, what is to be done. I believe this's exactly what the left wants, they want gas to get up to 4 and 5 bucks a gallon, that way we'll get rid of our vehicles. Have any of you ever listened close to Al Gores speeches on this matter, remember, the guy said that the internal cumbustion engine is the bane of man kind. We've got different gasoline mixture laws for every state and California too, so the oil comanys have to charge extra for all of that crap. I really believe that the government needs to get out of the way of these companies and let them do what they do best. And buy the way, has anyone noticed that every time that dumb shit rag-head president of iran opens his mouth and says Israel needs to be eliminated, gas jumps up about 5 bucks a gallon. He's no idiot, they make more money that way. So anyway, there's my evening rant.
AztecX 04-30-2006, 10:58 AM A lot of what the Matt says rings true.Oil companies are severely limited and strictly regulated as to what they can and cannot do. No new refinery built in 30 years, no ANWR drilling , no drilling off the Gulf...If we want cheaper fuel we just might have to start doing something about it instead of lining the pockets of our Middle Eastern "allies".
Meanwhile Castro is drilling 35 miles off the Florida Keys. Insane.
As an O/O I spend anywhere from $800 to $1200 a week in fuel. There's really not a lot I can do but suck it up and pass the savings on to someone else, plan logistics more carefully, and try not to idle the engine more than I have to.
BOOFER 04-30-2006, 12:26 PM [QUOTE=AztecX]Oil companies are severely limited and strictly regulated as to what they can and cannot do. QUOTE]
Yet they seem to retire with 400 million dollar packages.
AztecX 04-30-2006, 12:41 PM [QUOTE=AztecX]Oil companies are severely limited and strictly regulated as to what they can and cannot do. QUOTE]
Yet they seem to retire with 400 million dollar packages.
400 million is a pissdrop in a thunderstorm to Exxon or any of the others.
Hell that's not much more than the contract that A-Rod signed to play for the Rangers a few years ago.
Increased supply and lower demand. That's the ticket.
BOOFER 04-30-2006, 12:43 PM [QUOTE=BOOFER]
400 million is a pissdrop in a thunderstorm to Exxon or any of the others.
Hell that's not much more than the contract that A-Rod signed to play for the Rangers a few years ago.
Increased supply and lower demand. That's the ticket.
So you're content with getting financially sodomized by the oil companies then?
AztecX 04-30-2006, 12:54 PM So you're content with getting financially sodomized by the oil companies then?
What am I gonna do?
I have to pay to play or I walk and don't eat. They're some price-gouging fuckers but I can't ride a bike everywhere I go.
AztecX 04-30-2006, 12:57 PM Speaking of...I pull up to the pump yesterday and kick on the nozzle...and the meter pops up like 12 cents...and I ain't even pumping yet. That happens A LOT lately...anyone else?
EDIT: I think maybe they're trying to compensate for that little bit you get after you turn the pump off and shake the nozzle when you're done.
:thumbsdown-big:
BOOFER 04-30-2006, 12:59 PM Speaking of...I pull up to the pump yesterday and kick on the nozzle...and the meter pops up like 12 cents...and I ain't even pumping yet. That happens A LOT lately...anyone else?
Were all fighting with empty words, While the banks get fat,the poor stay poor, the rich get richer, and the cops get paid, To look away as the one percent rules America
AztecX 04-30-2006, 01:05 PM Were all fighting with empty words, While the banks get fat,the poor stay poor, the rich get richer, and the cops get paid, To look away as the one percent rules America
Heh yeah.
Gotta shoot for that one percent. :wink-big:
I know I got my Powerball ticket.
BOOFER 04-30-2006, 01:19 PM The mediocrity of civilization is really sad.
matt_sr 04-30-2006, 02:35 PM Again, back in the 80's when oil was 20 bucks or less a barrel, I didn't hear anyone complaining that gas was too cheap, or shedding tears for the oil companys as they were shedding employees. We're comming up on an election cycle, the pandering going on from both sides is stagering.
ggunn 05-01-2006, 08:40 AM I found a gas station in Wetumpka, Al--$2.69. I almost pissed myself that was cheap gas for todays prices.
AztecX 05-01-2006, 09:36 AM Diesel is around $2.80 a gallon here and the other grades hover from around $2.85 to $3.05 (V-Power).
Ricer-X 05-01-2006, 11:36 AM $3.19 for 93 in htown
midnight runner 05-01-2006, 05:38 PM I just put 2.93 a gallon the other day here ,,,boooo...heh
stretch415 05-02-2006, 09:48 AM 2.89 SIoux Falls, SD. My 02 X 4X4 gets 13.85mpg in town. Im going full syn. for my first oil change since I bought it. Hopefully that kicks it up a little. I did do the K&N drop in with almost no change at all. Any other fuel saving tips?
ggunn 05-02-2006, 10:43 AM Any other fuel saving tips?
I got better mileage after putting in some fuel system/ injector cleaner. Try that.
koober1 05-02-2006, 01:05 PM 3:29 for 87! California SUCKS!!!!!!!!! LOL
BOOFER 05-02-2006, 02:10 PM 3:29 for 87! California SUCKS!!!!!!!!! LOL
Wow, that's the worst I've heard of yet. What are they charging for Super?
In NJ I'm paying $3.05 for Super and around $2.80 for regular...
koober1 05-02-2006, 03:24 PM Wow, that's the worst I've heard of yet. What are they charging for Super?
In NJ I'm paying $3.05 for Super and around $2.80 for regular...
Like 3.49 for Super.
Yeah I've been using cruise control A LOT with the X lately. I think i'm getting better gas mileage. Last I checked I got 21.
matt_sr 05-02-2006, 07:13 PM Ok, I know this dog has been beat dead, but I heard something on the radio this morning that caught my attention. I was listening to npr this morning, now mind you, if there's an organization that still mourns the downfall of communist russia, it's this outfit. But anyway, they were interviewing an oil economist from Britian, and he said the the oil companys are currently making 8.5 cents per gallon profit in the US. The government tacks on over twice that in taxes. So who's making all the money here?? For those anti capitalists out there, your ballon has run out of helium and is dragging on the ground. So lets talk about big labor or big education or big hollywood or something like that instead of so called "Big Oil". There's nothing big about it.
AztecX 05-03-2006, 02:34 AM $580.00 to fill up the big truck tonight...$2.78 a gallon..
they were interviewing an oil economist from Britian, and he said the the oil companys are currently making 8.5 cents per gallon profit in the US. The government tacks on over twice that in taxes. I've heard from several sources that they skim over 70 cents on the gallon.
Last year I paid an insane amount of fuel tax to IFTA( over $10k) and the bastiches still audited me a month ago and found that I had overpaid by .03 cents.They basically said "That's close enough...We'll see you again in a couple of years".
Fuckers.
Hey ggun...I'm gonna be in your neck of the woods on Saturday. Goin kayakin at Coosa River.
koober1 05-03-2006, 02:56 PM uggg 87 went up to 3.37 today. It was 3.29 yesterday WTF!!!!!!
ggunn 05-03-2006, 03:33 PM Hey ggun...I'm gonna be in your neck of the woods on Saturday. Goin kayakin at Coosa River.
That could be close. Are you going to B-ham or Montgomery. I tried to look up Coosa river on the net and it showed some stuff in B-ham and Montgomery.
If we all had ClubXterra.org decals/sticker on our trucks we would know each other on the street.
Hey when are we getting those decals/sticker for the site? Anybody.:schlaf2-big:
Wetumpka... and bumpity on the website stickers.
matt_sr 05-03-2006, 06:11 PM California is home the most virulent form of enviromentalist. The state is totally infested with them, and if the rock you turn over doesn't have one underneath, you'll find an illegal. I would suspect that gas prices in california will hit 4 bucks this summer while the rest of us stay down around 2 or 3. The leftwing wackos will have you driving your bikes yet. I can tell you this, people are leaving that state at a high rate, the metro area here (mpls/stpaul) is filthy with ca plates.
stretch415 05-03-2006, 08:24 PM Gas went down .10 tonight in Sioux falls, sd tonight. $2.79 for 89 w/10%ethonal
ggunn 05-04-2006, 08:08 AM Have fun. Wetumpka is about 20min north of me.
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