The most bang for your buck [Archive] - Nissan Xterra Forum: Xterra Forums

: The most bang for your buck


WoodyTX
12-13-2006, 03:43 PM
OK, some background first.

Most motors are designed with specific parameters in mind, and just bolting on parts may do little more than change the way something looks or sounds. New parts may also negatively affect the motor, resulting in a net loss of performance. Depending on how well they mesh with the original design, they may also increase performance.

A great example is headers, which are used to efficiently draw exhaust gasses away from the cylinder, reducing backpressure. This raises horsepower, especially at the high end. It also can reduce torque, especially at the low end. Most trucks and SUVs are built with torquey motors, and adding headers will reduce their greatest asset (torque) in pursuit of something they don't use that much (high end horsepower).

The 'brain' of a motor, and the central design element is the camshaft. Everything else is built around this. A torquey cam plus headers and a big carb will actually make a less efficent vehicle. But a racing cam and stock intake/exhaust/carb will also suck. Finding the proper synergies is critical to bolt on parts.

My other vehicle (i.e. project) is a 1970 International Scout 800. The IHC 304 motor redlines at 4400 rpm, and produces 140 HP and 240 lb-ft of torque. Yes, you read that right; a 5.0 V-8 produces under 150 HP, but it produces 200 lb-ft of torque at 1000 rpm. Getting more horsepower out of it is easy (headers, new valve springs, carb), but generally comes at the expense of torque. Not an option for an off-road vehicle.

With that in mind, what performance mods get the most bang for your buck with the Xterra? Does anyone have dyno charts, etc? (Absolute HP claims are just about useless, especially if you lose all your "grunt" to get "wind-out" in an SUV.)

In the few days I've owned my 07 Xterra, I don't think there's really much need more oomph, although "enough power" really isn't in my book. :)

So, who's actually dyno'd their headers? Chips? Intakes? What'd you get? Is it measurably faster, or does it just sound faster? (Not that there's anything wrong with a cool-sounding exhaust; I just want performance with it).

Anyone have linkage to tests of Xterra mods?

Woody, man of many questions...

Ricer-X
12-13-2006, 05:54 PM
so ive thought about this alot, which is why i havent done any power mods yet, i had an intake at one point, the throttle response was great but it liked to inhale water, even when driving 65mph in the rain...

the only thing i think might do something worthwhile to my truck is having my ecu reprogrammed, but i refuse to have this done until hear how it worked for someone else

Muzikman
12-14-2006, 09:29 AM
There is not much out that has solid numbers behind it. I would really like to see some dyno numbers from a totally stock X (there was a 4.0L frontier that was dynoed).

Currently there are:

Headers
Exhaust
CA Intakes
and Stillan has a super charger

None of those things will really help your low end much if at all, except the super charger, but unless you have $6k burning a hole in your pocket...

I have gone the route that the new X has plenty to power and concentrated spending money on armor. The one thing I will get as soon as they come out with would be low range gears for the TC. After wheeling the Rubicon I have a hard time with not having that 4:1 TC.

WoodyTX
12-14-2006, 09:56 AM
The one thing I will get as soon as they come out with would be low range gears for the TC. After wheeling the Rubicon I have a hard time with not having that 4:1 TC.

THIS I need to hear about. I assume you made it? How'd it go? Is it on the trail talk forum?

Woody

Muzikman
12-14-2006, 11:12 AM
Er...I guess I should have stated, after wheeling my 03 Jeep Rubicon (which I purchased after the 05 Xterra). After I re-read that I see I worded that really poorly.

There has however been a few new X's (lightly modded) run the Rubicon trail with little problem and just some minor damage (not bad for a truck with only 9" of clearence and no real armor at the time. I'll see if I can find the posts and pictures.

WoodyTX
12-15-2006, 10:25 AM
Er...I guess I should have stated, after wheeling my 03 Jeep Rubicon (which I purchased after the 05 Xterra). After I re-read that I see I worded that really poorly.

Heh-heh. :)

There has however been a few new X's (lightly modded) run the Rubicon trail with little problem and just some minor damage (not bad for a truck with only 9" of clearence and no real armor at the time. I'll see if I can find the posts and pictures.

Let me know if you find anything. After armoring up mine, I think that would be a helluva run.

Woody

Muzikman
12-15-2006, 10:59 AM
Here is one 2nd Gen X on the Rubicon Trail.

http://thenewx.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=964

Anthony
12-15-2006, 11:28 AM
Yeah, that's XSnoopy... he takes awesome pictures!