So i went to trade that 5500lb winch in for a 10k winch but they didn't have it so i settled for this one. Will this do or should i wait till they get a 10k winch for 20 bucks more?

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk158/mene62374/PICT3090.jpg

that will do. all you need is some 1/4 plate to make a bracket for you frame horns and a aftermarket battery and you will be cool. you also might want to remote mount you solenoid box to the engine bay or your glove box (use welding gauge wire). we'll wire it up on mod day if you want. do you have/know a welder to make a platform/bracket?

Yes, it will work.

Will it work well and last? Well I dunno.

Was it made in China? Probably.

i got a 2 year warrenty with it and i it came with a 10k bracket that i'm gonna weld to the frame horns with 2x2 square tubing.

It'll work just fine.

Majority of us run 9,000 - 9,500 winches anyways.

i guess that quest alt is gonna come in handy.

Actually, you can run the winches off on stock alt just fine as long as your not using alot of electrical accessories at the same time.

Like - turn off radio, off road lights, anything else you don't need and just use winch only to do its job and you'll be fine. That's what I have had to do couple of times and I'm running stock alternator already but already have blue top marine dual battery tho.

yea i'll see if i start to run into problems, i'll get another battery.

9000 pounds is fine for most trucks My buddies 10ton(not a typo) winch is overkill but a pto winch is handy for certain things lol.

dude thats a 20k winch. What is it attached to, a mack truck???

The HFT winches are good for the price. The two year warranty is definitely worth it. You didn't here this from me, but you can take it back when the two years are about up and get you a brand new one.

One thing I have noticed from the winches that have been returned at my store is that the winch cable seems to rust bad.

Whenever you get it mounted up post up some pics. I might buy the 10k winch plus get my discount :D

I will say that we do sell a lot of them whenever we can keep them in stock.

i'm thinking about switchin out the cable with some line. whats the employee discount???

20% off :D

Yea I would go with some good line.

dude thats a 20k winch. What is it attached to, a mack truck???

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu304/evilmidget/Picture054.jpg The "MUD DUCK" has it mounted in the bed under the toolbox with 1/4 inch plate welded to the frame and the frame is boxed to take it. They dont use it too often but its there for the really bad spots but when your sporting 47" tractor tires its nice insurance lol.

if i could get my hands on a pto winch i would defiantly go that route.. LOL all you have to do is hook it up to your power steering pump and you are done.. well not really done, you need to hook up a throttle cable so you can rev up the motor to give it some more power... LOL

if i could get my hands on a pto winch i would defiantly go that route.. LOL all you have to do is hook it up to your power steering pump and you are done.. well not really done, you need to hook up a throttle cable so you can rev up the motor to give it some more power... LOL

Not the big ones.... theres a pto box you have to mount on the transmission or transfer case (X's dont have the capability) and make a driveshaft to turn the sprocket and build a shifter to engage forward and reverse as theres no freespooling. Its the same setup as a tow truck without the boom just a roller fairlead in the center of the bumper. Its really slick how it works and his is mounted on the 2nd transfer case so its really low gearedand he can pick differant gears for more torque or speed.

if i could get my hands on a pto winch i would defiantly go that route.. LOL all you have to do is hook it up to your power steering pump and you are done.. well not really done, you need to hook up a throttle cable so you can rev up the motor to give it some more power... LOL

I think you have Hydraulic, and Power Take Off (PTO) confused.

The hydraulic winches (Milemarker, etc...) use the power steering pump.

Agonizingly slow under power btw....slower than rated, because the power steering pump on the X doesn't pump at the pressure or flow rate required to deliver rated performance.

PSI = Strength

GPM = Speed

:D

A PTO doesn't use the power steering pump, it runs off the T-case as explained already above....and that requires a purpose built t-case.

:D

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Most of the budget winches use permanent magnet motors instead of series wound motors like the Warns, etc.

On the minus side, they burn out more quickly and easily.

On the PLUS SIDE, They draw a lower amp load...and, drain your battery less than a series wound motor would per minute.

On the MINUS side, the reason they draw the amps down slower per minute, is that they tend to pull a lot slower as well.

A 9,000 lb, 100' recovery that gets done at ~4' per minute, takes ~25 minutes of PULLING...almost a half hour....of draining your battery (And maybe patience...)

Add the few minutes of cooling off your owners manual says you need for every few minutes of pulling, to avoid overheating and destroying the winch...and you're closer to an hour.

:D

So, maybe 2 batteries would be better.

:D

you really want a budget winch buy an old pto winch off a tow truck with a pto box for a np205 divorced transfer case and make your own doubler and bam 10 ton winch and a doubler killing 2 birds with one stone lol. Ive seen alot of the 10ton pto winches sell for $50-$75 and a np205 can be found for $100 around here.

I'll sell you my steel winch line from my warn winch. its a 9k winch but I highly doubt that the HF winch can actually pull 10k. PM me if intereseted

actually if yall look at the truck and the winch on a pto setup it is basically the same as any other set up... with that being said i will explain....

the pto in a big truck is ran off of the drive line but basically it is the same setup as connecting to the power steering pump

why??

the power steering pump is a hydraulic pump just smaller so idle up a little and it should do ok

the pto is just a hydraulic pump connected to the drive line but this one instead of being on the front of the motor it is on the tranny and is usually activated by air...

i run winch trucks all the time that have a pto and with that being said i know the difference between the smaller hydraulic winch and the BIG hydraulic winch ran of of the pto...

but basically they are the same setup just one takes more flow/psi to operate...

I'll sell you my steel winch line from my warn winch. its a 9k winch but I highly doubt that the HF winch can actually pull 10k. PM me if intereseted

Thanks for offer but i'm gonna go with some synthetic line.

I think you have Hydraulic, and Power Take Off (PTO) confused.

The hydraulic winches (Milemarker, etc...) use the power steering pump.

Agonizingly slow under power btw....slower than rated, because the power steering pump on the X doesn't pump at the pressure or flow rate required to deliver rated performance.

PSI = Strength

GPM = Speed

:D

A PTO doesn't use the power steering pump, it runs off the T-case as explained already above....and that requires a purpose built t-case.

:D

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Most of the budget winches use permanent magnet motors instead of series wound motors like the Warns, etc.

On the minus side, they burn out more quickly and easily.

On the PLUS SIDE, They draw a lower amp load...and, drain your battery less than a series wound motor would per minute.

On the MINUS side, the reason they draw the amps down slower per minute, is that they tend to pull a lot slower as well.

A 9,000 lb, 100' recovery that gets done at ~4' per minute, takes ~25 minutes of PULLING...almost a half hour....of draining your battery (And maybe patience...)

Add the few minutes of cooling off your owners manual says you need for every few minutes of pulling, to avoid overheating and destroying the winch...and you're closer to an hour.

:D

So, maybe 2 batteries would be better.

:D

x2:bubblegum-big:

This is the Bracket the winch came with. Its 36" x 7" x 3/16" thick. i was thinking of welding it to the frame horns along with some 2"x2" square tubing. What do you guys think?

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk158/mene62374/WinchBracket.jpg

Well depends on your welder...if you have a good old fashioned stick welder or a good mig yeah that sounds great but a shitty 110 harbor freight welder not using gas Id just bolt it on personally.

Thanks for offer but i'm gonna go with some synthetic line.

I'm going to stay steel until i wear it out. When going into the pineys with a syn line I'de be afraid of sand and salt entering the line and causing abrasions from the inside much like climbing / kermantel rope. No reason to jump so quick from something I know is going to work.

Well depends on your welder...if you have a good old fashioned stick welder or a good mig yeah that sounds great but a shitty 110 harbor freight welder not using gas Id just bolt it on personally.]

No way would i ever use a crappy HF welder to do that job. I got a buddy with a good welder at his shop. He's gonna do the welding for me. Just got to get the stock.

I'm going to stay steel until i wear it out. When going into the pineys with a syn line I'de be afraid of sand and salt entering the line and causing abrasions from the inside much like climbing / kermantel rope. No reason to jump so quick from something I know is going to work.

Ah, didn't think of that. You think i should at least get rid of that crappy steel line the winch came with or should it be ok for now?

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No way would i ever use a crappy HF welder to do that job. I got a buddy with a good welder at his shop. He's gonna do the welding for me. Just got to get the stock.



Ah, didn't think of that. You think i should at least get rid of that crappy steel line the winch came with or should it be ok for now?

Um, the steel lines also get torn up in the pines, as sand and silt get into the steel strands as well....and the acidic bog water leaches metal out of the metal parts.

ALSO - IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN SYNTHETIC LINE AFTER STEEL -

The steel line cuts the rollers/drum, etc....and, those cuts can damage the synth line if you swap later.

If you're planning on synthetic line, its better NOT to run steel first.

At a minimum, you will swap out the roller fairlead for an aluminum hawse fairlead when you do the change to synth. This also saves a lot of front end weight.

My winch came with 125' of steel wire rope, and a roller fairlead, when I changed to synth and a hawse, I dropped ~ 45 lb off the front bumper.

:D

Since I never spooled the wire rope, my drum and roller fairlead was smooth as as baby's bottom, and the wire rope is pristine, etc...so I can sell them.